Petrification and Ascetics

[Stranger]

As Stone to Flesh does not affect an ascetic, even though they would likely have high saves to resist petrification in the first place, they may need an alternative solution to the status effect.

[CondorHero]

They cannot be raise either. But I guess that's the trade off for the power they get? >_>

[Arc]

Not being able to be raised kinda makes sense- but they really do need to be able to be de-stoned.

[Valo56]

I don't see why they would be able to resist either depetrification or raising. They're dead, or effectively so. They cannot actively or passively resist such as their lifeforce/ki/inner power is gone.

Though choosing not to allow oneself to be raised seems perfectly within the ascetic's style, as canonically one has to choose to leave the afterlife when being raised, and an ascetic would probably not allow themselves to take part in such a grievous breach of oaths without direst need.

[Sajuuk-Khar]

I actually like that an Ascetic cannot just magic away the lethal effects of petrification- in fact I disliked the idea that anyone could when Stone to Flesh was made more common.  It cheapens enemies like the Beholder, I feel, which were previously some of the most dangerous and scary things you could face for this very reason.


Ascetics already do get pretty high saves to mitigate the chance of this, and I think the better solution would be to be more prepared/levelled when you face enemies who can petrify you.

[Paha]

You are sure raising does not work on them? That is something I am a bit on the fence on, if it truly doesn't work, and not necessarily by my intention. We would need to discuss it with the team.

Petrification - per say I want to keep it as is. I do not necessarily want to make exception for one spell to make it easier - it is a risk. We will talk about it as well and see what we decide.

[Stranger]

I wouldn't suggest that the spell be made functional, per se, but that ascetics have some ability of their own to overcome the condition. It is mechanically impossible for even the most prepared teammates to assist them. They have to be able to help themselves, or being petrified becomes the singular bane of their unique class.

Instant retirement.

[Paha]

Some things are simply more dangerous. As I said, we will discuss it and we'll see what we decide.

[Divine Intervention]

Petrification is dangerous m'kay.  On a serious note giving ascetics an ability to overcome it would be somewhat going the other way as most normal PC's don't have access to Stone to Flesh and thus often suffer a similar fate.

[Knight Of Pentacles]

Petrification is dangerous m'kay.  On a serious note giving ascetics an ability to overcome it would be somewhat going the other way as most normal PC's don't have access to Stone to Flesh and thus often suffer a similar fate.

>_> That's not necessarily true.  A certain faction has the ability to buy these...

[CondorHero]

You are sure raising does not work on them? That is something I am a bit on the fence on, if it truly doesn't work, and not necessarily by my intention. We would need to discuss it with the team.

Petrification - per say I want to keep it as is. I do not necessarily want to make exception for one spell to make it easier - it is a risk. We will talk about it as well and see what we decide.

I can't say for sure. It is something to test. But no one wants to die for science. :(