Level Adjustment.

[Cruzel]

Still not exploding, Sorry.


But as Oskar says, My suggestion was a scaled LA system (This should be VERY easy to adjust and add scriptwise, for those not in the know) So that Monster PCs can have  no LA at levesl 2-4,  With either all/part of their LA being applied at level 5 and onwards, so that they can get to mid-level without a ridiculous struggle of rampant powerquesting. (Which btw, only serves to give them a VERY unfair advantage of wealth and supplies these quests are generally overflowing with. (My own PC, Ayana Cain was doomed to this endless cycle of low level quests, and became ridiculously overlooted/rich because of it.)

The point of this small amount of Leeway, is that once they get to level 5 where their HP and other such things are more respectable, leveling up becomes harder. So level 7+ monster PCs will still be VERY rare, hard to get, and still ridiculously strong.


Because let's face it - Monsters may be allowed to wander the Ziggurat, but There is only so many quests they can solo, and especially with the predominant team GOOD atm, I can't see very many people CHOOSING to quest with a monstrous PC.



(Also, My monster PC doesn't seem to be getting DM quests. I've  tagged along ONE, with someone else as the person the DM was going for. Other than that, ZIP, NOTHING, NADA. THEORY DISPROVED, THOMAS.  Subrace PC's don't score DM quests simply for being what they are.  A subrace PC may be watched more for being a monster/needing PVP, but otherwise I think it's up to the PC to EARN the time of being watched/scoring DM quests (Or to spam the DMs with requests)).

[Howlando]

I believe we had an internal discussion about this very same issue shortly before we rolled out EFU:A, and generally concluded that the system needed to make some changes - not that it isn't fun to watch people write impassioned arguments one way or another!

I believe we decided on some kind of percentage-reduced XP variable system for subraces, but maybe just removing it for the lower level for monsters would work better.

[wcsherry]

You people really do not want 0 ECL high powered monsters on the server. You just don't know it yet. Keeping this post here as a placeholder for when/if this pipedream ever happens to be able to say "I told you so!"

[Cruzel]

If the Percentage thing is implemented now, It's working terribly. My PC was getting like 12 XP per delivery as opposed to the normal 200.

I get like 47 xp, MAYBE  on a harpy run, and that is including end quest XP.  Orcs nets me about 1-300, depending on how many people are on the group.

I really don't have a problem with this, as I am fine with logging in, smashing a quest or  four, then RPing until a reset and then religiously smashing them again. My PC is not really a low level anymore, and I'm not complaining on my own behalf.

It's the lower level monster PCs that have it harsh. I've got a posse, people to quest with and stuff, and I've got the levels to keep myself alive for the most part. But for other PCs for even higher ECL than mine, the XP loss is way to harsh tbh.  There should definately be to penalty at all before level 5.

[MithrilDragon]

Bring back THAC0, IMO

[Howlando]

No, percentage reduction XP system is not implemented.

We have a desired feature list a mile long.

[TheMoonlightBecomesYou]

Is there any update on this? As much as I am loving playing my character, this ECL is biting real deep. It's livable, playable, and such, but I can't get over 5, and my bonus' aren't that great! :p

[9lives]

No update as such.

It's being discussed again internally, and the over-worked scripters have that aforementioned large list to work through.

[AKMatt]

ECL can be pretty brutal, but if you go on quests intended for characters of your level + adjustment, you still get quite a bit of experience, and as you are still at the lower levels, it covers a greater portion of your range to next level than it would if you were at the intended max level.

I would say let other features take priority over this system, but if more people start getting approved for high ECL subraces, bump this up in priority.  Most of the current level adjusted PCs have already slogged through the early levels to the point where dropping on the heavier penalties has been suggested anyway.

[Mort]

This will be added with next reset. Report anything weird!