THE ROCK

[Cruzel]

Please delete this rock.

THE ROCK


And AGAIN (Different time/group)


Notice the loot. There is like NONE going around, because the AI is too dumb to work around it.

(You should be ashamed of yourselves, especially you, WINSTON MARTIN)
REMOVE THIS ROCK. >.>

[core]

I cannot lend my support to Cruzel's anti-rock crusade.

[ExileStrife]

I think this quest could use a serious redesign.  It's more than just the rock, but the rock would help a lot!

[Jayde Moon]

Photoshop.

[Equinox]

no cruzel! you shall not ruin my rock/cliff tactic! i will smite you!

[Caddies]

Oh right, the rock. Yes this is infinitely lame, I've been on a team that used it. The orcs get stacked up and come in one at one, making the quest a joke. Removing this would be rad!

Ugh, did I just agree with Cruzel? Damn.

[Echigo]

I can proudly say I agree with Cruzel!

That rock is annoying... As Caddies said, it brings down the difficulty of the quest somewhat... So, yeah..

Remove, plix! :D

[tooh]

Do not remove, move it twice the actual distance from clifft will give us more Orcs to kill.

[MisterPAIN]

I never liked the quest.

PS: Replace with Flying Shark Island.

[Egon the Monkey]

The problem with this quest is it does boil down to "hold at that position or another corner, or their sheer numbers hose you".  If you recall the "horde of Chosen" quest, that was the same, but with 3 entrances for the mobs. It's risky in how fast it can turn against you, requires discipline, but it does feel stupid that they all back up there.

I'd suggest a re-working of the quest, with it given by a Stygian, Guard or Orderman, and set to be "we need volunteers to investigate the fate of an advance watchpost". Instead of corners to hold, give us barricades with gaps to defend, a couple of Repeaters or Catapults, and basically make it feel like we PCs are playing the other side of Castle Vrazdn.

[Halfbrood]

This is ridiculous, lol.

[Winston Martin]

No regrets tbh.

[petey512]

............. 300 anyone?

[Howlando]

The mettle of a player/PC is often determined by whether they use this ROCK or not.

See things like that can be nice for when groups are getting their butt kicked so they can fall back to it, but when perfectly strong groups march up to it like clockwork and use it with perfect coordination just so they can do a rewarding quest without the use of any supplies, it's not particularly impressive.

Change may be forthcoming.

[Yalta]

Removing the Rock, wont change much at all, the AI (unless its been changed) will mean if you hang back at around that point the critters will bounce off each other as they try to come round the corner and come through in single file around that point.
 
A better idea would be to "straighten" the whole quest, less corners essentially. Whenever you have a right angle with NWN you get "single-file-syndrome" as they all try to take the fastest "racing" line to get at you, but only succeed in bouncing off one another. Or as an alternative have the Orcs attack in a pincer movement from two locations thus making any holding positition impossible.