Beholder Summons

[Spiffy Has]

...Should be NPC only. Or at the very least, fixed so that a certain instant death ray bolt no longer applies. Dispel gaze, slow gaze, damage gaze- all are fine, but I firmly believe that a summon shouldn't have a repeatable save or die ability.

[Divine Intervention]

They also should not fire all of their abilities instantly and simultaneously, I'm assuming this is intentional for some reason as I was told its not a bug.

[Pandip]

Also, DM loot only?

[Moonlighter]

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I was fully dispelled and killed in a second or so in PVP.

[MaimedGod]

That's kind of ridiculous to have as a summon from an item you can find in a scripted quest. I recommend you just get rid of it from the loot table, honestly.

[Sankis]

Does it also dispel the caster? Isn't a beholder's dispel supposed to represent its anti-magic field or whatever?

[veggiequeen]

I don't find it -that- surprisingly, considering that anyone using it -should- be KOS for most of the server. Maybe cool down it a bit, but it is still a tool that -should- grant the hate of most of the people (not because of mechanics, but because of: ABERRANTS) and consequently should have some of payback for it.

[Moonlighter]

Does it also dispel the caster?

From what I saw it did not.

[LordOfBones]

The dispel is a cone in front of it, and I stayed behind it.


Edit: I think the summon is fine as it is really, it is super rare and extremely illegal and no stronger than scripted beholders. The summon has existed for as long as I have been playing if not longer and has not been changed since except its charges have been reduced.

[Moonlighter]

Of course you think the summon is fine.

[Divine Intervention]

Any summon that forces you to make 6 consecutive saves instantaneously that even high saves builds would struggle to achieve or die is not fine obviously.  Especially considering even if you succeeded in not getting blasted away you are stripped of all buffs and then hit for massive unblockable magic damage from the rays.

[The Samophlange]

This is one of those things that works well against enemy creatures, but is incredibly powerful in PVP. For a lot of players beating a DC15 check is tricky, let alone in two different saves. The fact that you have to take five at once is just crazy.

[keron]

This summon has been around for ages.

This summon has been around for ages. No complaints until now?

[500 Pages]

Yeah, get rid of this.

[Ziya]

Edit: I think the summon is fine as it is really, it is super rare and extremely illegal and no stronger than scripted beholders. The summon has existed for as long as I have been playing if not longer and has not been changed since except its charges have been reduced.

'no stronger than scripted beholders' is fine?