Human Domain for Clerics?

Started by One_With_Nature, February 18, 2019, 01:53:18 PM

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One_With_Nature

As the title suggests. Seems strange that there is one for every race including drow and orc but not Human as the most prominent race within the setting.

Just give them racial power,  extend efuss points to 15 instead of 10 (pure cleric only) and grant an additional 2+INT modifier to efuss points per cleric level, Spells: Invisibility (3) Keen Edge (4) 

Hollow_Mage

According to 1d4chan.org, there is not and has never been a Human domain as long as domains have been a thing. Even in the 3rd edition NWN is based on, there's even Celestials, Fey, Demons, Devils, but no Human domain.

Considering substitutes to this celestial oversight has been incredibly fun, as I consider what it would take for a god to support ALL humans. At the end of the day, I think Humans are too diverse to be covered by one single obligatory domain.

But if there WERE to be a Human domain, I would love to see it as a consequence of IC player action, and a well thought out HUMAN god.

Grouch

Humans tend to have the most choices when it comes to domains, as most gods are human gods.

I don't think this is needed, and the things you listed would be really really strong bonuses.
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Yamo B. There

It's a bit of a misnomer to say that most Gods are "Human Gods" - they simply aren't part of a racial pantheon. Non-humans worship or at least pay homage to any number of these other Gods, and humans regularly do the same to deities of other races (who often tend to have more specific portfolios; Dwarven Gods can be quite popular in certain professions). The really powerful and  widely-worshipped deities like Selune, Chauntea, Kossuth, etc., existed in some form before the birth of humanity (and most other races) and have occasionally been worshipped under different names by those races which held dominion over Toril in the distant past, before the current age of humans being everywhere. Forgotten Realms at the point on the timeline where CoR takes place isn't even the height of human dominance; its greatest nations and empires like Jhaamdath, Shoon, and Netheril have already imploded. Those regional powers often had different names for the current deities, and it's really only recently that most of the continent has roughly the same idea about the same gods.

At varying points in D&D, even members of racial pantheons have been conflated with or directly stated to be different aspects of other deities; the Elves' Sehanine Moonbow has, twice, been just a split personality of Selune (and also part of a triune goddess, which means the other two have also been part Selune). Gods are weird like that. With specific regard to racial pantheons, their existence as beings separate from the "main" set of deities generally springs from those races (and thus their gods) being alien to Toril. It's not that these Gods popped up and said, "Right, I'm only going to do stuff for Dwarves because I like them the best," they just happened to be the Gods like Chauntea, Selune, Gond, etc., who were floating around whatever world, and were brought with or re-manifested by the creatures of that world when they got to Toril. Dwarves, Orcs, and Elves all have racial gods or pantheons and none of them are native to Toril; even humans that aren't native to Toril bring their pantheons with them, like the Mulhorandi, who were straight up Asheron's Call-ed from Actual Egypt on Actual Earth. It's mostly Gnomes and Halflings being weird outliers here. Other racial pantheons revolve around created races or receive patronage from aspects of existing deities or fiendish powers.

/loredump

Mechanically, I'd think a Human Racial Power would have to end up being pretty dang weak, specifically because humans are everywhere. You can get away with throwing huge bonuses at Dwarf and Elf clerics because the likelihood of a group ever being comprised of a significant amount of those races is both pretty slim and more limiting in "powerbuilding efficacy" compared to humans. In some ways, racial domains are like a, "Hey, congrats on being sub-optimal," pat on the back.