Roleplaying Properly

Started by Ladocicea, October 09, 2013, 07:07:54 PM

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Vault Shrike

I use some of the following:

"Hail there", "Greetings", "Hoy there", "Hail", "Halt, traveler", "Hold, I bid you", "Good tidings", "Well-met", "Hold up", "I bid you stop".

Also, "Fellows", "Comrades", "Allies".

Knight Of Pentacles

you're not doing it right

UnholyWon

I type slow, slower than most on the server. So quick and easy phrases are sort of a "go to" for me. Beyond that, I'm usually here to enjoy a -game- or "game", period.

Disco

As long as people dont use the word "fuck" Im fine. God I hate that word in EFU it just dont fit.
So for what its worth Lado, I know where your going with this :)

Anthee

Quote from: Dillusionist;357937American colloquialisms, provided they don't reference non-existance things, don't seem anymore out of place than pseudo - cockney, irish, german, slavic, etc. accents that people use to represent the way their character speaks.

American colloquialisms didn't exist during medieval times or early Renaissance. Many of the ones you frequently see IG didn't exist or at least weren't in widespread use until a relatively short time ago.

All of the other accents you mention, on the other hand, have been around for a long time.

It just seems pretty much common sense to me that you should at least try to avoid American colloquialisms in a knights-and-sorcery setting because knights in shining armor hadn't been around for a good while by the time Europeans had settled America.
Zina Zizzo

Knight Of Pentacles

The grand roleplaying masters would do well to teach us peons about our colloquialism whatchamacallits

Inquisitor

Quote from: Anthee;357973American colloquialisms didn't exist during medieval times or early Renaissance. Many of the ones you frequently see IG didn't exist or at least weren't in widespread use until a relatively short time ago.

All of the other accents you mention, on the other hand, have been around for a long time.

It just seems pretty much common sense to me that you should at least try to avoid American colloquialisms in a knights-and-sorcery setting because knights in shining armor hadn't been around for a good while by the time Europeans had settled America.

Yes. Such phrases didn't exist in the medieval era- men were too busy fighting dragons and illithid to consider hip new phrases.

Doc-Holiday

Lets not be snarky and control our defensive reactions. The criticism was intended to push our roleplaying to a higher level not embarrass and demean. The comments were not meant as personal attacks nor did they come with a threat of punishment or retaliation so lets be the mature group of players we aught to be.
 
Granted now, my response is to the over-all tone of response, not specific. Listen to what the DMs have said, show them some respect, they've earned it.

Inquisitor

This is probably the beacon we need to aspire to in EFU;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH7s2BYbUAo

UnholyWon

Please try to remember most role playing degrades to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zng5kRle4FA

Big Orc Man

Guys, I really feel like the overall point is being missed.

Lado has his preferences, I have mine, Jayde has his, etc.

As a general rule, the less in-game speech sounds like an MMORPG's chat window, the better!

Calixto

I believe that for people not to be defensive, the OP should not have been offensive.

One thing is to have preferences, another thing is to say people who don't share those same preferences are "guilty" of "inappropiate roleplaying". Specially when we are talking of an issue which is, to my eyes, completely irrelevant.

But let's say those words are indeed inadequate... How are we supposed to know which ones are anachronisms, American vernacular, or whatever, and which ones were used in the Middle Ages?

Secondly, if this kind of language isn't appropiate because it is anachronic, isn't 90% of the technology-related words used in the server inappropiate as well (including the very word "Machine")?

The only issue I see with these words is they are inappropiate only depending on which character people are playing. For example, while it would be ok for a thug to say "guys", "pal", "hey", etc, an "aristocratic" pc would probably use a more elaborate language.
Most enjoyable characters:

EFU: COR
Tristan Caerfal (NG Human Sharpshooter)

EFU:R
Thomas Valentine (Human NG Fighter/Rogue)
Durga (Half-Orc NE Cleric of Ilneval/Fighter)

EFU:M
Marion Sileyna (Human LN Cleric of Loviatar/Fighter)
Atreia Kelten (Human Paladin of Tyr)
Riku (NG Stargazer Ranger)

Anthee

It's really not that difficult.

Watch Lord of the Rings, or Hobbit, or Kingdom of Heaven, or Robin Hood, or any movie set in the Middle Ages or a fantasy variant thereof. Read a novel set in a similar setting. Pay attention to the dialogue in those movies and novels.
How do the characters speak?

There are no guidelines set in stone, that's for sure. But what's just as certain is that you won't find a single movie or novel like that where one of the characters would address their peers as "guys" or use words such as "jeez" or "fuck" to express their anger or frustration.

It's a blurry line, yes, and I for one don't think there's anything wrong at all with for instance the word "hey". Maybe Ladocicea was thinking of "hey guys" or something like that when he mentioned that specific word.
Zina Zizzo

Yalta

I agree with Lado. Personally I find use of modern terms off putting.

Kotenku

To help the unwashed filth of EFU in their feeble attempts to roleplay properly I have compiled this shortlist of $10 words Ladocicea is GUARANTEED to approve of when used in game:

Sufferance
Imposition
Ennoblement
Exaltation
Impawn
Ingratiate
Decant
Lyceum
Snollygoster