Forgotten Forest frustration

[xxWhisperingWindsxx]

Thats what makes it an interesting spot, yes there is interesting information inside that area, but we also have a way to complete skip out that area entirely.

Mostly only usable by one group.  If you don't have the key for those spots (or the death wish for the other spot), they're not available.



Y'all are missing the point that a very intriguing part of the server is going to be overlooked because of one spot within it.  And knowing that one spot is an OOC thing.  Memorization pure and simple.  

And being told "don't go there then" when we've repeatedly heard how much of the server doesn't get seen by players is rather self-defeating.

[Howlando]

It's nothing to do with OOC memorization. It's something that takes a little time to figure out, but not much. Certainly some people might remember from previous characters, but many don't, and can just experiment a few times.

And, as others have mentioned, it's a perfectly fine IC solution to simply hire someone who knows IC how to get through - the normal way.

I'm sorry but I don't see the problem.

Of course not all areas should be easy to get to, it just happens that this particular challenge is not based off of dangerous monsters but rather a relatively simple puzzle.

[Doctor Mambo]

I have forgotten the way through and rediscovered it three times.  It is a very cool thing for mist-themed characters, though.

[Ironside]

I love it.  Don't change a thing.

[Cerberus]

For the record, I've been there with people that claimed to know the way and still gotten separated from them transitioning through the same place they did and ending up in a place they were not. So I'm not sure what anybody is talking about when they say go with a ranger or somebody that knows the way. It doesn't help when you transition to differing spots.

I only went in there solo because there was only a half dozen players IG at the time and figured I could see the sights and say IG/IC that my PC was really there. Part of my frustration is I spent an hour in there watching another half dozen log in and listening to at least three sendings I'd have loved to get to but couldn't because I was stuck there.

If I was the only player that has logged off because of it, says one thing. The fact that more than one player has logged off (or spent hours of time IG there) says to me it needs to be addressed.

[Capricious]

For the record, I've been there with people that claimed to know the way and still gotten separated from them transitioning through the same place they did and ending up in a place they were not. So I'm not sure what anybody is talking about when they say go with a ranger or somebody that knows the way. It doesn't help when you transition to differing spots.

It doesn't work like that. If you got left behind by people it's because they didn't wait for you, simple as that. In the forest the leader needs to take it slow and count their ducks. If they don't...well...people wind up all over the woods.

[Paha]

It really is not that difficult place. It is IC matter to deal with one way or another, and if players are sometimes worse than their character in directions, no harm in playing that aspect still.

[xxWhisperingWindsxx]

There are several buggy spots on the map that you'll transition funny.  I've ended up in an entirely different section of a map from the rest of my party.  So it does happen.  And I've lost count of the number of times people get left behind from Point A to Point B, even without going through tranisitons.

I've also been told that people have it mapped out and written down exactly what steps to take, so I'm not pulling it out of my ass.

Apparently getting stuck in an infinite loop for over an hour is what ... means you're stupid?

But ... I'm not going to fuss about it anymore.  [shrugs] I'll just stay away ... even if it means getting chastised for not exploring the server, or missing out on some key plot point that's dumped in there.

[Paha]

I can honestly say you can get to it with simple process of trial and error. Elimination process works. If you keep repeating same mistakes over and over again, you will end up going in circles.

[Howlando]

WWind, allow me to say for the record now and forever, that aside from rules and regulations, any advice about how to enjoy the server from myself or any member of the DM Team can freely be disregarded by yourself and anyone else who so clearly enjoys different kinds of challenges and aspects of EFU. You're free to enjoy this server exactly as you choose.

As it seems plenty of players enjoy a non-combat based labyrinth puzzle, I think we'll leave it as it is for now - but by no means does anyone need to go through it if it's a source of such frustration. And there are ample IC warnings about it being a complicated, confusing place...

[PanamaLane]

If you haven't figured it out in an hour, spend another hour at it. Eventually persistence pays off and you begin to figure out methods of navigation through trial and error. It is tougher to pull off with a group, but by no means impossible. Maybe this is spoilerish...but don't go through a transition to scout and expect to be able to reach your group by heading backwards, you all must hold hands through each step. Hiring someone that knows is 100% the way to go. Chances are they don't have it mapped out themselves, but have figured out a methodology to get through.

And if you are still lost and annoyed? Maybe you should have read the sign. People go mad in these woods yo.

[Aefar]

The way through the forest seems to me to be logical and don't need to be memorized. You should only get your camera behind you and think about it like you are there. And turn your map off.

[Ebok]

Make it bigger and more confusing. It was my favorite part of the forest. I wish there were deeper parts that clearly are marked dangerous, and than make all passages that direction loop except a few that are random. That would be epic. >_>;

Sometimes I got turned around, but those were the best parts. It only takes a bit of attention to keep trying new paths until you're out. It's really quite small. I had more trouble walking backwards through it then I ever did trying to move forwards.

[xxWhisperingWindsxx]

People are missing a point I said.  It's not the entirety of the map.  It's actually one of my favorite maps to wander about in.   Getting in isn't the issue, wandering about isn't the issue.  

In getting out, there is one specific spot, that I've spent so much time in, I can draw it from memory, that if you don't know the right combo, you're basically stuck.  That one spot is my only issue.

But as I said, I'm not going to fuss about it anymore.

[RuinedDesires]

Does this one spot, happen to have four entrances and is a square?