Mist Censors

[Mr Howardson]

Give these items a major draw back when used, like XP deducted or a constitution penalty. They shouldn't be used willy nilly and without cause. At this rate, our poor H'balan faction may end up deader than dead!

[xXCrystal_Rose]

Or at least a submit/resist like searches and needles.

[prestonhunt]

Also, please make them so they cannot be used without being hostile to the target.

[Disco]

+1 to Rose and Preston.

[Blue41]

It's a hostile action. Refuse, and you goan need a DM, boy.

Also, limited use per day.

[The Old Hack]

It's a hostile action. Refuse, and you goan need a DM, boy.

Also, limited use per day.

Okay, now I am confused. That means it was the Order that started the fight when they used their censer on Yvette Maeglin over her objections? And do you need a DM present for using it on someone refusing it if there are NPCs present? Or do you need a DM present for use on someone refusing it, period? *scratches head*

[Witchcraft]

Imagine if some weird tobacco cultist came and blew a big fat puff of cigar smoke in your face. You'd want to punch him, right? That's what this is like.

Also, it's difficult enough to play a H'balan as it is. It's really not very sporting to identify all your PvP targets before they have a chance to reach level 5.

[Blue41]

It's a recent ruling. I agree, outing somebody as the enemy of 80% of the server with one click isn't cool, and Order PC's have been informed what's up. No one should really be misting peeps with zero warning beforehand.

ToH, pvp rules apply. Can't use it on a PC who refuses it in an NPC-populated area without a DM around. If they submit, it's cool. Out in the wilds, feel free to treat it as a hostile action if it's done without consent. I can't speak on the Yvette thing, as I wasn't there.

[Random_White_Guy]

To address your concern though Witchrcraft, the H'balan PCs know what is up from the start. EFU is hard and H'balan EFU is EFU Hardmodex150.

That being said I personally have enjoyed hearing about the censors, it's added some fear to some otherwise fearless endeavors in service to H'bala.

Changes or not it has been a cool implementation

[Caster13]

Okay, now I am confused. That means it was the Order that started the fight when they used their censer on Yvette Maeglin over her objections? And do you need a DM present for using it on someone refusing it if there are NPCs present? Or do you need a DM present for use on someone refusing it, period? *scratches head*

Talir's recent post stating that using the censers on unwilling people is a new development for us. We had been operating differently previous to that.

Since forcing the censer on an unwilling is a hostile action, DM supervision is needed in NPC areas just as it is for general PvP violence.

We have been told that forcing the censer on unwilling people in non-NPC areas, like PvP, does not require DM supervision.

Edit: whoops! Blue beat me to it!

[Damien]

Honestly why is it needed? Don't mean to sound rude or anythin but it seems to remove all the tact from people being able to find out who the secret worshipper is. It's not as if every hbalan is a spy hiding in mistlocke.

[Caster13]

Because as an incident last night showed, it leads to some hilarious conflict?

Plenty of room for IC repercussions whether they're used properly, improperly, accurately, or inaccurately.

Alternatively, you could say we have them for the same reason the search pack player tool exists!

[Teeth in a Bowl]

Hilarious is not a synonym for good.

[Caster13]

Alright, then I'd say what happened last night was both hilarious and good.

[Adam]

In all honesty you should avoid Order like the plague if your a H'balan cultist. Murderers don't chill with the police with blood soaked hands. And I think its fine, as a person who has used it.