Important questions about PvP.

[Disco]

After playing here for I dont know 3years? I have never EVER been under the impression that blur or bark would make it any harder to ID an attacker, After all these two buffs are used in all pvps. If you want to hide your ID use different clothes/armour/helmet/weapon/cloak and such, be creative.

[WildPirate13]

Ty for the responses. Blur, stoneskin in my eyes IN conjunction immunity to ID... is to powerful. Sort of a licence to douche.. just kidding.

[KillerKan]

Is Polymorph or Shape change a disguise?

If see a wizard in troll form, and I attack him like a real troll. Am I in the right to treat him as a hostile monster? Assuming I wasn't there when he transformed.


Food for thought.

[Spiffy Has]

Yes. If you run into a random troll in the wilds, even if it's a player, you're legitly allowed to smash its face.

[OrneryBadger]

Is Polymorph or Shape change a disguise?
 
If see a wizard in troll form, and I attack him like a real troll. Am I in the right to treat him as a hostile monster? Assuming I wasn't there when he transformed.
 
 
Food for thought.

Has happened multiple times :)

[Wild Card]

I certainly like the sound of that :)

[Darlene Te'len]

from my observation of the game in general (this and other pvp servers), where you have PVP you will have individuals who stack the odds heavily in their favor, and deliberately target ones they suspect are new as characters (and potentially as players as well), easy gold and items, heck i have even had people brag about it to me in tells, so far not on this server thankfully, i presume these ones will be on every server, but i am hoping they are less frequent here.

i will not try to stop anyone from doing it, but it does upset me occasionally to see the individuals i have described, there are two kinds, those the bad ones, and the ones who do it via the rules and do not target new characters  as per the game thugs who only think winning means getting the most stuff and bullying ones who are really not in a position to stop them

again i have not encountered any individuals on EFU who fit this mold, i have no doubt those ones will slip in, but do as i do..make a note of the player/character and simply avoid them if possible, if they are a bully player, every character they make will fit that mold, if not, they are a regular player testing different concepts, in that case it is the character and not the player, but they may have made a error in targeting a new person..and saying it is hard to diferenciate a new player form a established one..that is BS it is easy to figure..you ask them in a tell, you say "hi and welcome to the server, are you new?" if they are new, guide them even if it is via tells..if they are in a heavy mugging area, inform them and guide them out

bully players will never do this because the only thing important to them is winning, i personally do not think there are many if any bullies here, another trait of a bully ..is they will justify what they do vehemently, refusing ever to aid others, they chose only to victimize, and i have run across bully players..it is unavoidable in a anonymous game such as this, the rules and dms monitor such ones,

bottom line? it is always best to discuss it calmly (not always easy if you have been victimized) and take screen shots if they have overstepped the line, talk to a dm or if none are available, send a message on the forums to them.

[MirrorMask]

There are thuggish players who play thuggish pc's.  I've yet to meet any.  The thieves here are very good at being thieves and, as a victim of mugging multiple times IG, they're fairly nice thieves only taking so much gold (always less than half in my experience), and only a few rare items, which can suck, but better than them taking all your good stuff.

It does so happen right now that there are multiple "mugger" characters who are very good at what they do and they do more often than i like.

[Decimate_The_Weak]

EfU isn't the story of ONE individual, but the story of MANY & what good story has ever been considered good without proper conflict?

You can't let one or two negative experiences convince you that it's all EfU is able to provide, for it has the potential and has exceeded many of our expectations in providing outstanding stories, conflict, as well as character progression.

Do not take every PvP personally. I can't count how many times I've been subdued during PvP that I may have had no play in, but I also can't count the times that PvP resulted in something positive for my character.

PvP has existed, it will exist. It's what brings a lot of us entertainment (not from bullying, as cyber-bullying isn't exactly satisfying) through the adrenaline, the intensity, risk, and story.

EfU's strange ways will come clear to all of those of you who are new, and when it does, I eagerly await my future gank. :)

[Guns 'n Roses]

Yes. If you run into a random troll in the wilds, even if it's a player, you're legitly allowed to smash its face.

So long as you adhere to the PvP guidelines.

If you see a troll (NPC) in the wilds, would you (pre-)buff hard to win or would you simply engage? If I came across a situation where I find a troll PC in the wilds, that would be one to consider.

[Big Orc Man]

I would hesitate to label players who initiate PVP as "bullies".

In fact, I've seen a TON of situations in which certain characters consistently needle, insult, and mock other characters, and then, when violence ends up being the eventual answer, seem shocked and chagrined that someone would do such a thing!

It's a dangerous and dark world.  If you go around calling mighty warriors' mothers wenches and insulting their gods, said warriors might just practice their craft on you.