Werecreatures

[The Boom King]

Max out H/MS and spot/listen and follow suspected lycans like a creeper- imo.

[TheImpossibleDream]

Max out H/MS and spot/listen and follow suspected lycans like a creeper- imo.

If a Lycantrophe doesn't invest in detection skills they detect a person with up to 25 hide and move silently fairly regularly. If they invest skill points in detection you'll need to be somewhere near the 40's and they'll still spot you occasionally. In turn actually spotting them requires around 15 spot/listen at the very least. Unless they aren't investing in stealth.

But yeah I guess it does work if you can get all those skills raised so high <_<

[Egon the Monkey]

In the current DM plot it was already stated that things like silver and belladonna will not detect a lycan that's in human form.

This is exactly why it's important to know if anything more unusual will affect them rather than making assumptions. It's one thing to say "The +AB effect of silver is only to stop wounds healing". I know that, my PC knows that. It's another thing entirely if you have a rare, magic silver weapon that will ICly cause visible frost burns, electric arcs or flames when it touches a werecreature. I was under the mistaken impression that their race was only Shapechanger once shifted.  If that is something where the PC has to RP the effects, it's a test. There are other effects that will only hurt certain races or alignments (Chaav's Laugh and Purple Crystal Arrows for example), and I've known them to be used as checks. One of the great things about the server is finding ways to re-purpose stuff for more than the immediately obvious, for example using Ooze summons as a means to check for stealthers.

For any other +dmg types like +dmg vs Good/Evil, the "detection" use could be easily negated by adding (-1 damage, +1 elemental damage) or using a physical damage type unless DMs want the weapon to work as a check. That way, whatever it hit would spark/freeze/burst into flame for a moment, not just creatures of a particular subset.

As for creeping up on them, as naga points out, you pretty much have to be built totally for spying to even stand a slight chance. Even in their human form they get the stealth/detection bonuses and free feats. What's missing is a way for PCs who aren't (for example) bards with max Listen and Extended Invisibility to actively reveal werecreatures.

[HaveLuteWillTravel]

I honestly think this particular paragraph says it all.

They generally app to play a Lycanthrope and to play that -stigma- .  They will give HINTS to players they believe will treat them fairly and  wont try to "WIN"...  They know they will die at one point, but they  want to create a fair deal of intrigue surrounding it. I dont think we  have to force them to roleplay it at all through somekind of mechanic...  If you are approved, it generally means the DM team trusts you to do it  by yourself. Generally, a situation where players trust eachother  OOC`ly will be a lot more fair/cooler than a situation where players  dont trust eachother... so WORK ON THAT trust. Show hints through good  behaviors that you are not looking to 'win', just to develop that story.  And if you do win and gave all the little nudges of respect along the  road, people in IRC/Forum might not know, but your foe will be grateful  and the DMs will know/figure it out by asking your foe/monitoring you.

[Mort]

Gonna close this. This seems more like a political debate regarding a recent event than a suggestion...

I think regarding arbitrary DM decisions, its better to address them in private rather than in a public suggestion forum.. i.e. DM Q&A.

Although this forum doesnt specify it, Its generally used to see ideas regarding things that we can build/toolset to the module or setting. Suggestions, questions or comments on conduct, arbitration, dynamics are better handled in DM Q&A.