Werecat abilities

[CatScratchFever]

So... does the -4 STR reflect a werehousecat or a werepanther?

[Yalta]

Leave as is. Werecats do not take down entire parties alone for no reason.
 
The -4 strength is flavour to reflect a less brutal werecreature compared to boars and wolves.
 
I have cats they are as weak as shit.

[The_Sacrilegious_Scorn]

I have cats they are as weak as shit.

You have a panther and call it weak? Sorry, bad joke.

We should perhaps focus on exactly what type of cat you are a were of. If you are a weretiger, then you are likely pretty badass when it comes to strength.. If you are a were-housecat... likely not so much.

I think the current were-cat is based on the panther... So let's look at the panther in basic, unmodified NWN [hide=Panther]http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Panther

Challenge rating: 2
    Saves     fortitude  5   reflex     7   will       2  Size: medium
        Abilities     strength  16   dexterity  19   constitution  15   intelligence  3   wisdom  12   charisma  6 [/hide] As you can see, the panther has 16 str. I don't remember exactly what the were-stats are, but 16 strength means it is pretty damn high above John Standard.

I think, given that a werecat is most likely to be based on dexterity (given that it gets pretty decent bonuses to it and weaponfinesse for free) that the lack of loss in carrying capacity induced by the -4 STR isn't really gamebreaking at all. Given that the dexterity is likely always going to be higher than the strength, there is no gain in AB and +2 damage in flat combat is not really something I think will decide a battle.

TSS

[TheImpossibleDream]

I think what people are forgetting is that the sub-race is were~CAT~ not werepanther. Wererat is not weregerbal and werewolf is not weregermanshepard. The panther animal form is simply due to engine limitations, you can't make pc forms smaller.

[CatScratchFever]

I think what people are forgetting is that the sub-race is were~CAT~ not werepanther. Wererat is not weregerbal and werewolf is not weregermanshepard. The panther animal form is simply due to engine limitations, you can't make pc forms smaller.

I think Hyrsicator Snugglepuss might disagree!

[adharmas]

Could the Rakshasha model work? Is there a rakshasha model?

[Jagged]

I just think that shifting into hybrid form and becoming encumbered is dumb.

Wizards can polymorph into CHILDREN, and not suffer strength reductions so that they can at least still walk/run.

Making the creature weapon 1d10 damage and leaving the strength modifer at +0 will remove the encumberance and leave you with virtually the same damage.

[Ebok]

As previously stated werecat is like a bobcat or lynx, not a panther. Efu as practice rules what you see is what you get. What we see is a panther. I do believe that this should be taken into consideration by the DM team for this reason alone.

[The_Sacrilegious_Scorn]

As previously stated werecat is like a bobcat or lynx, not a panther. Efu as practice rules what you see is what you get. What we see is a panther. I do believe that this should be taken into consideration by the DM team for this reason alone.

Good point that also reflects on a question I asked in the DM Q&A thread regarding wildshapes. I absolutely agree with Ebok here, and while I can agree that lifting the strength to 16 would perhaps be woefully OP, I still strongly believe the -4 should be removed.

[TheImpossibleDream]

Animal shape may look like panther, however the hybrid shape has black fur with brown stripes, a white belly and a fussy greyish white patch on its head. I've never heard of any big cat with those kind of marks, seen plenty of regular old house cats that looked a lot like that though.

[Ebok]

Animal shape may look like panther, however the hybrid shape has black fur with brown stripes, a white belly and a fussy greyish white patch on its head. I've never heard of any big cat with those kind of marks, seen plenty of regular old house cats that looked a lot like that though.

And stands as tall as a human. If the middle creature is man-sized, it reaffirms the panther far more then a kitten. I would also like to point out that it is the extreme that determines the creature, not the hybrid. Example:

Human + Wolf = Werewolf
Human + Dire Bat = Werebat (gargoyle model)

The were-cat race is taken directly out of one of the core books, yet we lack sufficient representation for it. What you see is what you get. It's a were-panther.

[Mort]

Werecats are somewhat more lame than the other lycanthropes. The fact they are weaker brings them some charisma as players who want to play them usually have a good idea/concept regarding them and are not strictly being drawn for their power, which makes their weakness a positive difference for roleplayers.

[TheImpossibleDream]

And stands as tall as a human. If the middle creature is man-sized, it reaffirms the panther far more then a kitten. I would also like to point out that it is the extreme that determines the creature, not the hybrid. Example:

Human + Wolf = Werewolf
Human + Dire Bat = Werebat (gargoyle model)

The were-cat race is taken directly out of one of the core books, yet we lack sufficient representation for it. What you see is what you get. It's a were-panther.

If we want to get technical, you cannot even BE a werepanther. You can however be a werecougar, wereleopard, werejaguar, but not a werepanther as panther is a term used to describe black variants of the aforementioned cats. The panther itself is not one specific cat.

Also the stats on the cat shape are abominable. Doesn't even come close to the jungle panther or even druid panther shape.

[Letsplayforfun]

I'm sure we all got the point.