Using Blackout

Started by Keeper of the White Wyrm, July 17, 2011, 03:06:05 AM

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Keeper of the White Wyrm

Please, please, please use this sparingly. This function is prone to bugging and gives a lot of heartache and headache to the dms and the victimized player.

If there is no REAL need to black someone out, kindly DON'T. Sitting in the Blackout area is no fun, and it's much more fun involved for both sides if you can think of a way to avoid using this function.

It's a very cool function, but it should be used responsibly as well. :(

Big Orc Man

Agreed.  It's extremely frustrating to get knocked out multiple times.

Juzza

I agree with this, since this was introduced some PCs, NO PCs in particular however, have basically used this as their standard subduel mode and it just shouldn't be. Thomas makes the rest of the points I would stress about it not being fun for the person blacked out on several levels and it has been known to bug.

Arch Rogue

I think Blackout is awesome and should be encouraged, it often leads to better situations, and also allows you to move off with a victim somewhere safe, quickly, instead of waiting around like a sitting target for passerbys/ganksquads.

If there are specific bugs, report them so they can be fixed I guess. :)

Keeper of the White Wyrm

Quote from: Arch Rogue;250709I think Blackout is awesome and should be encouraged, it often leads to better situations, and also allows you to move off with a victim somewhere safe, quickly, instead of waiting around like a sitting target for passerbys/ganksquads.

If there are specific bugs, report them so they can be fixed I guess. :)

Alternative to FD, certainly. As a "I will always use this setting even when it isn't needed", definitely not. Blackout is NOT fun, ever.

9lives

Blackout is there to be used, but don't utilise it unless you actually plan to do something with the body, or the target actually needs to be completely in the black.

The bugs associated with it are basically unfixable.

HaveLuteWillTravel

A problem is the player of the character who's been blacked out is basically missing all the fun. Especially if they're blacked out repeatedly, and just left to lie there instead of being blacked out for the purpose of being moved. It's frustrating, especially when you don't know what's going on, knowing that these could be the last moments of your PC's life, and you're being denied the ability to roleplay them out.

It's always important to take into consideration other players' fun, especially when you're potentially ending the life of a PC.

Keeper of the White Wyrm

Quote from: HaveLuteWillTravel;250714A problem is the player of the character who's been blacked out is basically missing all the fun. Especially if they're blacked out repeatedly, and just left to lie there instead of being blacked out for the purpose of being moved. It's frustrating, especially when you don't know what's going on, knowing that these could be the last moments of your PC's life, and you're being denied the ability to roleplay them out.

It's always important to take into consideration other players' fun, especially when you're potentially ending the life of a PC.

This. In bold.

Mort

Good news!

I found the bug that wipes the inventory... dirty little f***er. It will be fixed next reset.

I also made it so you are under a blindness effect rather than a fade out so you can continue / receive tells if a problem occurs. This should make the blackout experience a tad less frustrating.

Decimate_The_Weak

I think "black out" is an awesome option for carrying a body away so they wake up in an unfamiliar area going "wtf?"... otherwise, it's just ugh.

The Old Hack

So far I have only used BO mode when I have wanted to make a prisoner go somewhere and said prisoner kept dragging his feet in an obvious attempt to slow movement down. It's a good alternative to killing the target, I feel.

RagingPurpleGiant

Howland's fixes will make Blackout mode far more bearable, imo.
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Barber

I don't like to black people out, as the original poster said, it is boring.

In a recent incident, I had a "knocked out" PC I had captured and was walking off with them, them walking beside me.  Someone else came by, knocked them out for real and tried to carry the corpse-item off.  When I tried to explain they were knocked out already and I had them, I was told otherwise.

If no DM is available, what should happen in that situation?  Can we get a DM ruling that you don't have to be "knocked out" to have someone knocked out?

Mort

Yes... Dm will wear the Referee cap when needed.

petey512

Use blackout to move people.
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