"Racism" and "Speciesism" (?)

Started by Howlando, July 04, 2011, 01:01:22 PM

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Doc-Holiday

I don't think you quite caught the point of my post.

I was not suggesting that what you pointed out was wrong concerning the attitude of EFU.


I -was- suggesting that it is, in fact, In Character for an Ilmateri to advocate redemption as a possibility for any and all. Simply that.

Paha

Many things are certainly possible even in efu, but in general creatures and monsters are far more closer to the usual image of their race than anything else. Great exceptions do exist, however.

Here lies one problem though, and it is consistency. If you never speak of the fact or treat the NPC creatures any different, don't suddenly start doing it just because you see special name and it being blue. OOC courtesy is grand, but take a stand for your concept. If it is your concept to give such things a chance, so be it. Pesky little slave servant? Fitting. Such noble and even bit "loonie" person that would think even a monster can chance - go for it.

Remember this as a warning. Monsters can be killed for what they are. Common sense should apply, as always, and we don't necessarily mean you should just silently invisi FD them without any RP, but they are monsters. If a player sides with such creature, you cannot take it upon yourself if you are treated with very much same prejudice as the monster you are defending. At that point, you have no right to bear grudge if you end up killed for it either - though if it's poor RP and you just get hacked down, obviously you have right to demand better. The end result however may not change even if the means and RP would. You may truly end up killed for protecting monsters, and just like your attempts to protect monsters, it is justified for others to be very extreme in their stereotypical hate for monsters and monster "lovers".

Howlando

I do not object to the occasional extremely tolerant or naively idealistic PC. My only real request is that players do not use the term "racism" or "racist" to attack those who have a normal prejudice against other races/species (half-orcs, dwarves, goblins....).

QuoteTo be honest, I think its more the responsibility of monsters to be monstrous than for idealists NOT to be idealists. One of the most attractive things about EFU is how good and chaotic idealists, who usually skirt by easily in most D&D and NWN worlds, end up fighting an up-hill battle against the scumlords and tyrants when they stick to their principles.

"Friendly" goblins and kobolds should be snacking on babies while their ardent protectors' backs are turned to prove them wrong!

This is fairly accurate, I believe it is important to emphasis that players of monstrous races are expected to portray them monstrously!