Changing Protection from Alignment

Spiffy Has · May 25, 2011, 02:44:31 AM

I think this spell is way to good for its spell level (1), granting complete immunity to mind spells.

I think it would be prudent to give the spell a simple +5 versus mind effecting spells (Tasha's, Hold Person, etc...)

And as an added perk to abjurative focussed spell casters (Clerics, bards, wizards, sorcerers) Spell Focus Abjuration would give +10, Greater spell Focus Abjuration would give +15 versus mind effects.

Or SF or GSF abjuration grants immunity. Either way, giving specialized wizards perks is always a good thing, and you weaken the overall wizarding population.

It is still useful, just no longer overpowering for its level.

Nightshadow · May 25, 2011, 02:51:55 AM

Yeah, that'd be a welcome change, and make it so that Specialized Abjurers get full immunity as usual.

Bearic · May 25, 2011, 02:54:19 AM

This was discussed before. =]

http://www.escapefromunderdark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52332&highlight=Changing+protection+from+alignment

Egon the Monkey · May 25, 2011, 01:36:36 PM

Thomas, if that happened I'd make a Paladin with SF: Abjuration and trample roughshod over every mind save ever, GSF mages and uber NPCs be damned. I used to be for this sort of thing, but a successful mindspell is a win in most cases as the target is out of the fight for long enough to cream them. So a counter should be relatively easy to get hold of or I for one, will be welcoming our Extended HP Cleric Overlords. This has been argued to death.

What I think would lead to more variety in fights would be to change things on a case by case basis so that PfX blocks fewer spells. Weak mind-affecting spells like Bane, Doom, Gedlee's and Command could be changed to not be Mind Affecting any more. Ghoul Touch could be removed from being mind-affecting, as it already has touch range, and the Poison descriptor to make it easy to save against. That would lead to a greater range of offensive spells being used, as opposed to the glut of "PhKs at dawn" PVPs you'd see if PfX wasn't a good counter.

Udenbur · May 25, 2011, 02:05:31 PM

It's been beaten to death after a long, long discussion in the past already. As was the decision then, PFA remains unchanged. Its not rare in spell or bottled form and it's easily dispelled, so everyone profits.

Diz-e · May 25, 2011, 05:08:57 PM

Changing the way a spell works as intended and just like PnP? I don't think so.

Dr Dragon · May 25, 2011, 05:10:34 PM

If your going to Nerf PFA I say nerf mind spells.

Anon · May 25, 2011, 05:30:46 PM

I've always thought this but never chimed in.

Definately get rid of total immunity IMO... Make the server harder too.

Ebok · May 25, 2011, 05:49:06 PM

I'm against any changes to this spell.

Dr Dragon · May 25, 2011, 08:00:06 PM

Quote from: Anon;240813I've always thought this but never chimed in.

Definately get rid of total immunity IMO... Make the server harder too.

This doesn't make the server harder. It just gives more power to the already overpowered spell caster classes. Wizards are already as powerful as it is.

Equinox · May 25, 2011, 08:15:15 PM

Against this suggestion. We don't need to make our wizard overlords any more powerful.

Kiaring · May 25, 2011, 09:09:35 PM

Quote from: Egon the Monkey;240779...or I for one, will be welcoming our Extended HP Cleric Overlords.

Kiaring · May 25, 2011, 09:12:10 PM

I mean, lol.

TheImpossibleDream · May 25, 2011, 11:16:43 PM

Your suggestion is bad and you should feel bad.

VanillaPudding · May 25, 2011, 11:24:23 PM

True, Naga's 8 wisdom barbarians would never survive long if this got changed.