Clerics using talismans/ wands of other deities

[Talir]

As a cleric, you shouldn't wear the holy symbols/relics/items of another god. Same usually with paladins. Druids aren't that strict and neither is ranger. As a Blackguard, do not wear an amulet of peace and good will.

[Porkolt]

Unless you're a cleric of Cyric.

[Relinquish]

What about the seemingly general items, that have no apparent connection with a deity. Mushroom fiber staff, totem mace?

[Talir]

Not even as a cleric of Cyric, Mask or Shar.

It may be argued against but if you are truly a cleric of any of these subterfuge gods or goddesses, you need more than talismans to convince anyone. Wearing the items of another faith just don't cut it, not as a cleric.

[Talir]

This is more of an issue regarding the items specifically devoted to certain deities than the mundane, general items.

[Porkolt]

Okay, but you're kind of reversing the point here, I think.
 
I mean, I understand the general ruling: you shouldn't wear holy items of a different god when you're a cleric.
 
But now you're saying subterfuge-lies-fake clerics can't wear those because just doing that doesn't cut it for impersonation. Who said it does? My point is that the talismans of other gods could just be used as a tool, not definitive proof.

[Talir]

We understand it when you wear them to blend in (IMPORTANT: Bluff and Charisma!) to a society and when you sleep with them for those nifty bonus spellslots. The difference is there. They can be used as a tool but there is a line.

This is for subterfuge deities who are okay about their clerics posing as other deities.

[MrGrendel]

Individual deities in a pantheon are parts of a whole, you can see this by their divided roles. They're not a faith unto themselves, they are part of a faith in the various deities.
 
Though they are sometimes opposed (and these cases may be exceptions) they also aknowledge each other, deal with each other, make alliances and sometimes even love each other.
 
Would Kelemvor really be upset if his cleric wore a talisman of Mystra for protection while he fought necromancers? What about a cleric of Malar who wears a ring of Umberlee while hunting sharks?
 
Why shouldn't clerics wear talismans of other deities when it will help advance their deity's plans? Won't their deity be displeased they're not using everything at their disposal to further their plans?
 
And since gods have many varying degrees of relationship with each other, why should there be a blanket ruling at all rather than a case-by-case judgement depending on which deities exactly?

[Mort]

Your character, if a stern devout or priest, should not wear Talisman/Holy symbols of other Deities. Although alliance between faith is possible, if you are a priest, your entire equipment should reflect that and loopholes will just show lack of devotion. You wont necessairly get spellfailure unless you wear like holy items of enemy faith, but you are likely to shoot down any bonus favors for devoted clerics.

[Letsplayforfun]

Your local 'i pray to the god that fits the moment' polytheist common man can certainly argue how fitting it is to use such and such divine item at an appropriate moment.

But clerics and paladins are not just commoners in a polytheist world: they devote their lives and souls to them, hours of prayers, preaching, converting, advertising, sacrificing, offering, depicting, but mostly buffing in the name of the one and only one, because they -know- their god's dogma and ways is the right one.

Using other symbols is lacking faith. It's obeying the lure of other gods that want you to worship them. They are so malign they make yourself be convinced that 'on occasion', you can, then slowly you find yourself thanking them, not the true one.

If you worship Mask and have a box full of holy symbols to fit the occasion, great. If you keep equiped your regular Moander amulet for the +1AC, not great.

[SanTelmo]

Basically, change your deity whenever you find a holy symbol with better bonuses.

[Gippy]

Individual deities in a pantheon are parts of a whole, you can see this by their divided roles. They're not a faith unto themselves, they are part of a faith in the various deities.
 
Though they are sometimes opposed (and these cases may be exceptions) they also aknowledge each other, deal with each other, make alliances and sometimes even love each other.
 
Would Kelemvor really be upset if his cleric wore a talisman of Mystra for protection while he fought necromancers? What about a cleric of Malar who wears a ring of Umberlee while hunting sharks?
 
Why shouldn't clerics wear talismans of other deities when it will help advance their deity's plans? Won't their deity be displeased they're not using everything at their disposal to further their plans?
 
And since gods have many varying degrees of relationship with each other, why should there be a blanket ruling at all rather than a case-by-case judgement depending on which deities exactly?

That is my own view.

That said -- wearing a amulet of say Umberlee to gain spell slots makes no sense for a cleric of another faith.

[Coldburn]

What defines a 'holy symbol or relic', though? For example:
"Talisman of Moander: A simpel cord with a small rotting skull attached to it at its end. Insects and worms of all kinds seem to come from the skull from time to time. Efforts to remove them fail miserably.", "Goblin Shaman Ring: A small enchanted ring enchanted by the followers of the goblin god Maglubiyet." or "Jergali Ceremonial Girdle: An old belt made from leather. Small skulls are attached to it."
Let's be honest here. Nothing here indicates that it's a Deity's symbol of any kind. Well, arguably the Talisman of Moander can be. But for the description, that I personally think is put in for mere flavor, there's no way to IC find out whether or not it's a tribute to some God, nor does it show so physically.

Half the items in this server are in related to some God. Should we all just discard 'flavored' items on all Clerics? Because personally I don't see it as an issue until you outright use, say, a Cloak with Cyric's skull with purple flames coming around it representing the Dark Sun on a Priest of, well, anyone else. It's just these small items I'm discussing.

[Mort]

Anything that's an amulet (If it has a Divinity's name in its name, you know due to Lore that's an holy symbol of that deity). Anything that has clerical spell slots.

[Mort]

But really, the more you are a devout, the more you should avoid these items that have other divinities harbouring them.