Dispel Invisiblity on recovery

mucka1916 · January 20, 2011, 02:23:32 PM

Is it possible at all to allow /c dispel invis on when a person is rolling recovery. There's nothing more annoying as an mage I find than someone, for example, setting off a trap that insta drops you and because no-one can see you no-one can heal you to help you recover.

Listen in Silence · January 20, 2011, 02:46:31 PM

I'm against this to be frank, would be awful to lose invisibility causing mobs to spot and kill you.

Egon the Monkey · January 20, 2011, 03:22:34 PM

LiS, he's suggesting to allow a downed player to use /c dispel invis to remove their own invis (which apparently doesn't work if bleeding). Not to *automatically* dispel invis is you are knocked down to Bleeding.

mucka1916 · January 20, 2011, 04:32:43 PM

What Egon said. The amount of times I've been downed, try and call for help, only to here "I can't see you" is really annoying. Potions of seeing and see invisibility items are expensive and quite hard to come by and no-one is willing to use one to help a fallen comrade it seems.

Egon the Monkey · January 20, 2011, 04:56:05 PM

They aren't that hard to come by if you buy them off brewers, and if I don't have some on hand for PVP or DM spice, I try to get hold of them ASAP.
TBH the most common issue with bad invis is:

Quote"Oh bugger, surrounded! I know, I shall drink invis, because I am sma..."
*AoO Frenzy, thump*
"Argh help, my comrades!"
*bleeds to death*
"Did Trevor say something? HEY GUYS WHERES TREVOR?"

Being able to dispel your own invis would help. You risk getting shot ofc, but can be healed.

Paha · January 20, 2011, 04:57:02 PM

The big problem also is that if you speak while invisi, you will not be heard by your team mates that have lost sight of you for.. some amount of time. I think it's like 10 seconds..

Jasede · January 20, 2011, 05:23:40 PM

This really seems like a good idea. It's voluntary, after all. I can attest that I have died at least 596539648 times while bleeding invisibly.

Mort · January 20, 2011, 05:36:47 PM

It would be great to be able to drink potions while bleeding, but it's meant to represent a comatose dying state.

I understand it's frustrating but it is the risk of remaining invisible or going invisible in battle.

Letsplayforfun · January 20, 2011, 06:45:54 PM

It's one of the few drawbacks of hiding during a quest. Having a dedicated bodyguard usually takes care of that issue.

Jasede · January 20, 2011, 06:50:42 PM

I'd say it's more a case of

"Oh no, my buffs are running out, I am badly wounded and nobody is healing me right now! Gotta dash!" *drinks Invis* *AoO crit*

rather than

*is a wizard* *hides all quest long, baby*

BRESTON · January 20, 2011, 08:24:37 PM

Get the survivor perk and stabilize more often~~

Knight Of Pentacles · January 20, 2011, 08:27:50 PM

I recall archers seeing past my invisibility quite blatantly and KO'ing me. (I think this happens when the server is particularly laggy) Quite lame to die in this manner because for some reason Orcan archers could see past the veil. (Note that there's no way they could of used see invisibility potions when this has happened to me)

Mort · January 20, 2011, 10:08:41 PM

Yes. The AI does roll listen check and can continue to attack if it successfully detects you. You still get that 50% miss chance, so it's not a bad deal.

kanrath · January 20, 2011, 11:43:17 PM

It's a known bug with AI as well, the auto attack/follow script does not properly stop when someone goes invisible. I mean I honestly doubt an orc a good 300 feet away is going to hear a mage standing next to a pile of fighters brawling it out. If they were closer then sure but sometimes its just silly. and they will follow you all over the only way to end the bug is actually let the fighter walk up and swing at you in which the auto attack script will naturally end. Same goes for archers. If you do this and they don't stop attacking you then its likely they can hear you as mord said.

Would be great if there was like a perk similar to I forget the feats name but it allows one at 0 and below to take half actions. Too bad NwN is coded to think 0 is out cold..since at 0 yer still able to take half actions..can't count how many times I've hit 0, and then bled from 0 to -10

MrGrendel · January 21, 2011, 12:45:08 AM

IIRC the real issue is not with teammates spotting you, but being mechanically unable to apply heals to an invis person? Unless I am thinking of a bug from elsewhere, yes, one should be able to drop invis while in negatives in return for something that should be possible anyway. Heck, I'm reasonably certain you're supposed to be able to pour your own healing potions into an invisible, unconscious person's mouth.

If it's just solely for the purpose "oops, they can't actually find me while unconscious and invis, so I should be able to dispel it," then I don't think we need a change...