Make Sure to Vote !!!

[JackOfSwords]

For those citizens of the U.S. 18 years of age, make sure you get out to vote on Tuesday!

It doesn't matter who you're voting for, just make sure to do it!  Your vote can only be counted if you go to the polls.  It's the only time you're given an easy way to affect policies in Washington, so make sure your voice is heard!!!

Hugs to all!

[Caddies]

Good luck mounting a campaign against apathy. It is our greatest collective weakness, but will sadly never be overcome.

[Xorisai]

That's some serious irony right there.

But the rest of you - vote!

[Sandstorm]

That is needlessly cynical, Caddies. Over 25% of registered voters in the US have already voted-- around half of the normal voting base. Voting has skyrocketed this election, up to 6x the number in some places. Early voting has gone up from 12% in the last election to 25% today, 4 days before election day.
 
I predict there will be massive turnout, and it will be record breaking.

[derfo]

8 years of dog shit should be enough to motivate anyone

[Nightshadow]

Just remember, while you're voting, McBush... err... McCain will give us another 4 years of what Bush has been doing, and this country cannot afford more of the same.

[Squyrl]

And while you are voting, remember that Obama will give us far worse than anything you think was bad about the current administration.

[Nightshadow]

Alright, Squyrl, I'd like you to tell us why. What is Obama going to do worse?

[9lives]

Just don't let The Gays marry.

[Vlaid]

Republicans vote on the 5th, don't forget. The 5th.

[DFTPeeper]

Just remember, while you're voting, McBush... err... McCain will give us another 4 years of what Bush has been doing, and this country cannot afford more of the same.

That's what happens when you listen to political propeganda and don't listen to the actual speaches. You get the bias. - Mccain has said clearly "I am not Bush, and I will not do what Bush is doing, simply because I am a republican."

Sure if you vote for Obama, make less than 250k a year, you're in the clear.. But what of those that work to earn that money? - Obama showed his true colors the day Joe The Plumber asked his question. "Share the wealth." Mccain wants to tap into american resources, and not foreign. Create a ton of new jobs, and such.

But go ahead and listen to the "Proven" monotonic/hypnotic/reverbing voice of Obama. Let his 18 Charisma, 20 Bluff get you.

Mccain - Palin '08

[Vlaid]

That's what happens when you listen to political propeganda and don't listen to the actual speaches. You get the bias. - Mccain has said clearly "I am not Bush, and I will not do what Bush is doing, simply because I am a republican."

Sure if you vote for Obama, make less than 250k a year, you're in the clear.. But what of those that work to earn that money? - Obama showed his true colors the day Joe The Plumber asked his question. "Share the wealth." Mccain wants to tap into american resources, and not foreign. Create a ton of new jobs, and such.

But go ahead and listen to the "Proven" monotonic/hypnotic/reverbing voice of Obama. Let his 18 Charisma, 20 Bluff get you.

Mccain - Palin '08

How is he different, other than saying he is different? Is it the foxy side-kick?

[Sandstorm]

I have decided to try to mash Peeper into the ground. I do not particularly follow voting trends, because I think it's silly to say 'He voted against this' or 'He voted against that', because bills are long things and contain several articles. These are the policies that he has said he will pursue.
 
McCain has said he is not Bush, only because he knows if he says he is Bush he will immediately lose. Looking at his policies, lets compare them. McCain wants to make Bush's tax cuts permanent. He wants to continue Bush's wars in the Middle East. He wants to continue to tax the lower class and give more of Bush's tax breaks to big corporations. He wants to continue Bush's strategy of not talking to enemy nations. He wants to destroy public schools, like Bush, and give out vouchers, which only work for some students. He wants to focus on unsafe methods of drilling, uncaring for the environment, and give big oil companies more of Bush's subsidies for drilling. He, like Bush, does not care about global warming, or take any steps to stop it. He, like Bush, has resorted to almost 100% negative campaigning this election. He changed his stance on gay marriage and abortion to match Bush's, in order to win this election. McCain keeps saying he wants to make new jobs, but has said he will invest in companies that ship jobs overseas.
 
Obama has advocated for tax increases for more than 250k a year. Yet, it's not the end of the world for them. Those who make more -already- pay more in the income tax, due to different tax brackets based on income. This country has flirted with socialism since the beginning of the income tax. Taxes pay for services, and this country desperately needs services right now. Instead of putting the burden of these services on the poor, who already have enough problems, Obama wishes to make those who have a healthy living pay a little bit more so that this country as a whole benefits. Big companies like Exxon Mobile who made 14.8 billion in 1/4 of a year do not need tax cuts-- they should pay more money in order to prop up schools, and families, and social security.
 
This is not socialism. There is already a socialist candidate for president, and the socialist party has condemned Obama as a capitalist. Bush has just nationalized the banks, that is a -huge- socialist move, and more so than anything Obama has offered. McCain himself has said that he supports nationalizing the banks because this country is in crisis. This country is -still- in crisis, and requires a new system to make sure this does not happen again. Obama is not proposing full socialism, but he is edging away from pure capitalism, which both Ben Bernanke and Alan Greenspan (Fed Chairs) have supported. Palin has said that this is not the time to be experimenting with ‘socialism’. Such broad generalizations have drawn criticism from even herself, when she said she did not want to ‘label herself as anything, because labels do not represent what something truly is’.
 
This is the best time to be trying something new to help the economy. If things continue to go as they have been, this country may be facing another recession, if not global depression. We need a leader who will talk to our enemies, and a leader who will focus on the concerns of the poor, the middle class, and the wealthy, instead of just the wealthy.
 
You mention that Obama has 18 charisma. That is an excellent trait in a leader, especially one in such volatile times. We need a leader who everyone looks to for guidance, someone who can put our country ahead of political pandering and partisan lines. Obama is the only candidate who is doing that, seeing as more than a few high ranking republicans have been endorsing him in the recent days. Very few democrats, if any, ranking democrats have made the switch to McCain.
 
You mention Obama has 20 bluff, as if he’s lying to us. He has had a clear and consistent message the entire campaign. His policies and plans have not changed one inch since he took the stage a year ago and announced his candidacy for president. McCain’s plans, and strategies, have jumped all over the board, as he desperately tries to find something to bash Obama with. First it was negative campaigning about the Reverend Wright, then it was about Bill Ayers, then it was about Socialism and Communism. They are grasping at straws, and the only fear that is spreading is the fear that the republicans same old message of fear is not working anymore on a country so jaded by their party.
 
I will leave it at this. Is it more reasonable to think Obama has been lying so skillfully, without any leaks in his office, and has no idea what he is talking about, or is it more likely that the McCain campaign just wants to spread fear and doubt, as they have the entire campaign, in a last ditch effort to make you think he is evil and incompetent?

[Nightshadow]

Was it not McCain who also said that he voted with Bush 90% of the time? Fine, McCain does not equal Bush... At least, 10% of him doesn't equal Bush, the other 90% of him is the very same. Yes, I know, I listened to the speeches/debates, I know that he told him that if he wanted to run against bush he should've done it four years ago, but it seems Obama is getting a second shot at it now.

9lives, please tell me you aren't serious, what's wrong with gays? Sure, it's pretty gross, in my opinion, but so what? It's their choice, not ours. And I don't care what you say, having two men marry eachother isn't going to hurt another family, there's just no reason why it would, all that crap about 'protecting the family' is just a bunch of homophobes being sensitive.

Another reason why NOT to vote for McBush is because of the 'War' in Iraq. This isn't a matter of pride, people are dieing there (civilians mostly, in other words, women and children and other defenseless people), they hate us, it's dragging our own economy down, they want us gone, and there was never any reason for us to be there. Suddam Hussein was in no way, shape or form responsible for 9/11, infact, he had NO ties with al Qaeda, he didn't like them either. He also had NO WMD's. Ever wonder why they weren't used against us? Honestly, if he had any, they would've been fired at us when we invaded, but that's just logic thinking. So other than to defend your goddamned pride should we stay? I am not entirelly sure on what it is at right now, but last I heard (couldn't have been more than a year ago), only like 7% of the terrorists/insurgeants in Iraq were al Qaeda.

It is quite simple, really. Vote for McBush if you want 8 years of the same thing, the same slow death to the poorer people, in the hopes that trying the same thing over and over again will miraculously work. Vote for McBush if you believe this is a mental recession we're going through. Or, vote for Obama and his 18 charisma, as Peeper said. That will come in handy in foreign relations. Vote for Obama for a change from a slow death to healing. Vote for Obama to get us out of Iraq and put our recourses where they are needed. Vote for Obama to have a competent president in the White House.

(As a side note, something that I find funny. I am glad to see republicans finally take offense to McCain being thought of as Bush 2.0, I'm glad to see people seeing through the lies. Also, not everyone to the left of Hitler is a communist, alright?)

[Thomas_Not_very_wise]

Can a DM please lock this thread? This was a reminder to vote, not a political debate.