A thought on PVP

[Jayde Moon]

Ah!  Well, I AM important!  Didn't you get the memo?

Didn't realize we were at the level of 'internet argument' yet, then I'd pull out ALL the stops :P  Trolling, flaming, straw men... you NAME IT!

In any case, agree with iBard there.  I'd rather not know I'm about to be ganked.

And yeah, if you jump out from your hidey hole, yell, "BLAAARGH!!!  I KEEL JOO!" and run all up on them and they don't move, react, draw steel, run away, emote... anything... I'd stop and stare at them real hard.

Another dead giveaway is if you charge and their buddies go, "Hey, dude.  Like, he's totally AFK.  Didn't you get the memo?"

[Cluckyx]

going afk is baaaaaaad. It's just begging for trouble. Either you're in a quest area and you're with buddies that will watch you're back, or you're on your own and you're probably in the ziggurat etc in which you can LOG OFF.

 It's not rocket science.

[JackOfSwords]

Cluckyx, arguing that no one should ever be afk is completely unrealistic, and arguing that you deserve anything that happens to you for being afk shows complete lack of respect for the real world your fellow players live in.

[Caddies]

If you attack someone who is AFK it will be immediately obvious as they will just stand there and probably auto-punch you repeatedly until they are subdued. In this case you should probably break it off. Ideally though a DM would be there watching and enforce this; another great reason (beyond it being the rules) to always inform a DM of PvP even if it isn't in an NPC-populated area.

[Gullible Righteousness]

I know the one time where that has been an exception in my whole of EFU, and I was just murdered randomly, the DM overseeing actually gave me the opportunity to respawn afterwards. Granted it was under another login name, and had he known it was me, I'm sure he'd have just brought out the popcorn instead.

Actually, I think the DMs can check if it's you, by your CD keys. I'm not a hundred percent sure on this, though.

[Jayde Moon]

Just cause they can doesn't mean they think to do it!

[Cluckyx]

Cluckyx, arguing that no one should ever be afk is completely unrealistic, and arguing that you deserve anything that happens to you for being afk shows complete lack of respect for the real world your fellow players live in.

No no no no no no

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that. All I said is it's good practise to Log Off when you're afk for more than a minutes.

 Prevention is better than cure. Everyone knows that,

[Nightshadow]

Simple, if someone is standing still not doing anything, send them a tell saying "Are you AFK?" and if they don't respond, wait for them to, and as soon as they say something like "Back, what's up?", then PvP. This makes it so that you still have the element of surprise when they get back and they aren't being killed while AFK.

It is not a good idea to even set people to hostile until RIGHT BEFORE you attack. There shouldn't be any OOC agreement on the PvP, if necissary, that can come after PvP (all parties involved, keep your cool, nothing I hate more than someone that can't accept the fact they've just been FD'd, just completelly ruins my day). A few people do metagame on this server, so that person you plan on attacking on a routine trip between Starwood/Ziggurat may suddenly be buffed anticipating an attack, he may even justify it, saying "well, I was expecting goblin assassins" when in actuallity the "Fred now dislikes you!" message was the thing that made them drink 300gp in potions.

So, don't attack people who are AFK and it's not a good idea to warn people OOC before you attack. Maybe if you're going to sacrifice random people some OOC agreement is in order, however.

[Jayde Moon]

Lol.

"Are you AFK?"

"No... why?"

"BLEEEEYAAAARGH!!!!!"

A few people do metagame on this server, so that person you plan on attacking on a routine trip between Starwood/Ziggurat may suddenly be buffed anticipating an attack, he may even justify it, saying "well, I was expecting goblin assassins" when in actuallity the "Fred now dislikes you!" message was the thing that made them drink 300gp in potions.

Alternately, just setting people on dislike for the hell of it could be a good way to get them to burn resources!  Less prepared for when the wolf is actually there.

[Metro_Pack]

If a PC is taken down for otherwise legitimate reasons while AFK, it is not the responsibility of the attacker to determine this, it's the responsibility of the AFKer to either log out, or accept the small chance that something bad could occur while AFK.

[ScottyB]

Our very own ExileStrife was once PvP attacked while AFK on the steps of Town Hall. He alt-tabbed back in and immediately ran to the SG tower, or so I heard. CON/Endurance-build Wizard FTW.

As a side note, whenever I needed to set someone hostile for an arrest or something, I'd just hostile the whole server. It would amuse me greatly to learn that someone several areas away that I had never heard of burned their potions in anticipation of an attack that wasn't coming. :)

Continues talking about the good ol' days without relevance...

[JackOfSwords]

When I see the message, "Player X now dislikes you!", I feel very hurt, and usually log off soon after to cry and indulge myself in a quart of ice cream.  ;)

[Listen in Silence]

I agree, setting the entire server to hostile before PvP is the best solution. I've developed the habit of also keeping the server on hostile for the mandatory online period after PvP, regardless if I think there is a chance for retaliation.

It just makes it easier for people to attack me with the element of surprise.

[Oroborous]

I like to just walk up to people and set them hostile sometimes.

Its fun to watch them turn around and head the other way all of a sudden.

[Garem]

But Oro, if your character is glowing red, it means you're glaring at them angrily whilst fondling your weapon menacingly! But of course they run when you glow like that. I guess you didn't watch enough cartoons as a kid.