please delete de weather's effect on making firecamps

[Letsplayforfun]

When the weather's "not appropriate", a PC can't light a fire, and therefore can't rest. IMO, it just doesn't add much, and is a real pain for spell casters who travel, or for the parties they travel with.

Having to go all the way back to town or to a lair or something just to hide from a little rain is a bit annoying and RL time consuming.

It's not like it's a real blizzard or storm or anything.

[Vlaid]

I'd have to agree. It would be one thing if there was some way you could create a fire in wet conditions, but it's not like you can RP creating an overhang to block out the rain, or finding some dry firewood without a DM.

Might be as simple a solution as adding some kind of supply to the NPC vendors like easy-light tinder or something that costs extra but lets you start a fire in the rain.

[Letsplayforfun]

Might be as simple a solution as adding some kind of supply to the NPC vendors like easy-light tinder or something that costs extra but lets you start a fire in the rain.

Sounds cool.

[I can has fun?]

I actually like this feature, but what breaks it for me is that we make campfires with oil, not wood tinder. Oil lights under just about any condition!

I say we just switch the oil flask item for a tinder kit item, then add a new oil flask item which costs much much more, but can be lit in the rain.

[Nickless]

Having slept outdoors with not even a sleeping bag, I can say that it is indeed possible, albeit uncomfortable, to sleep in the rain without a fire or a bedroll. With a sleeping bag, it's even more possible. This is a rather hot humid island, I don't see it getting particularly cold.

[Equinox]

yeah and thats why rangers can sleep without a fire, and druids dont need anything to sleep in the outdoors, its a good class feature, however i wouldnt have anything agsint the oil/tinderbox idea.

[JackOfSwords]

Maybe provide an item known as corn chips.  Fritos make a great fuel to start a campfire in poor conditions.  :D

[SnottySnitch]

It's extremely easy to make a fire in any weather where it doesn't rain. It's easy where it's just a drizzle, moderately difficult when it's raining steadily, difficult when it's falling down heavy, very difficult when it's raining cats and dogs, but it's almost never, ever, ever impossible.

Yes. I've made fires with flint and tinder and a bunch of branches under all of the above conditions - and I am definately no ranger. The only real difference between all of the above is that the harder it gets, the longer time it takes (mainly in terms of preparation). But honest to God, unless it's a tropical thunderstorm rain out there, you can make a fire. And if you've got oil to make a fire, why, even that won't stop you.

[The Crimson Magician]

Add in a script perhaps, where you either need to make a skill or ability check, or it takes a certain amount of time to light a fire, if it is raining, or even more, if it's a storm, or something. It is pretty annoying, isn't it?

[SnottySnitch]

You are annoying. :(

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[Johannes]

Yes. Oil is very easy to light. But there is not a chance in Hades that the little flask you are carrying has sufficient to carry you through the "hours" of time it takes someone to rest/reverie.
 
It DOES require some other form of fuel. In the Underdark I imagine that it was mushrooms. On the surface it is kindling or anything else you can find. Oil simplifies the task of setting a campfire.
 
For the large part, when it rains, the choice of firewood is damp. Rain douses fire. On the whole, it is difficult to light anything. I don't care how close you huddle to a tree.
 
And in most situations, people CHOOSE to go out in rainy conditions - knowing that they and their possessions will become horribly waterlogged, and chances are that they will catch some kind of illness. And they accept the fact that perhaps it would be DIFFICULT to lie down out in the wild and SLEEP.
 
I've found it deeply amusing the number of times I have seen people contentedly standing around in the rain for no excellent reason with perfectly good shelter nearby. Do I need to script a cold virus? Please don't make me script a cold virus.
 
If this is unplanned, and it rains unexpectedly, then that's the EfUA life. Nature has thrown you a curve ball and you simply need to accept the consequences.
 
Certainly, you could attempt to construct some makeshift shelter out of sparse twigs and leaves. Maybe someone could justify digging a hole in the ground and crawling in to rest for the night. I honestly consider this to be the domain of the Ranger/Druid, however. Not the domain of every John, Joe and Sue in wizard robes or fullplate.

[Vlaid]

What happens when that master of the wild Ranger creates a campfire expertly crafted under shelter, using masterful tacticery to find the dryest timber he can find....so that his friends can rest? He can't, it's wet XD

[Johannes]

That ranger will just need to accept that he does not have the time nor skills to set up a sufficiently large shelter for his party of 8. What a pity.

[Letsplayforfun]

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