A slight rearrangement to the Warden's District

Started by tropic, May 28, 2010, 03:03:48 AM

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tropic

I think the new Warden's District is great, with one exception:

The place where there is most likely to be PvP, at the fountain between the transitions to the Ziggurat and Docks, is right next to the Docks transition.

What this seems to do, to me, is to encourage transition abuse, where a player can transition back and forth to his advantage. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I think that in PvP you get so heated that you're not thinking clearly, and a lot of times you will "do what it takes" to win even if that entails bending the rules a little.

My suggestion, then, is to space out the transitions a little more, maybe put some distinct feature like the fountain a little farther out and have it serve as a sort of landmark. That way, you can't hop across a transition, heal and buff, and then hop right back and get directly in to the melee. You will have to run a fair distance while evading pursuers before you can effectively escape into your respective district.

I suspect that it will ease things up on the DMs if they aren't forced to possess Docks NPCs to beat on Stygians or whoever else.

Anyway, I'm still new here so I really don't like to make suggestions to people who have been at it way longer. So please let me know if I'm wrong about any of this and if I am, don't be offended! Thanks for reading!

Caddies

I tend to agree with this, TBH. Especially considering how much PvP has taken place there already.

I do believe that it was made that way to cut down on 'travel time' between the major areas (Docks, Zig) but maybe it could be spaced out just a little more.

BrittanyPanthas

Fully agreed.  Its far too close together to set up decent PvP between the two districts.

UrkoNeedsAStiffDrink

Agree with all of the above. Seen too much transition abuse in the past two major PvPs for my liking!

Gippy

Maybe add a rubble placeable that you need to talk to get over. Tumble check 5 -- but it just stops people from going over in combat.

Nightshadow

High DC Tumble check (15, or 20) when in combat, automatic success when out of combat. That'd be best, in my opinion.

lolmagics

No talk things on transitions please. As for the distance, the Ziggarut is just as close, maybe you're just not used to losing over on the Duchy side yet <_<

However, a more 'central' type area where all three factions cross would be better. Adding a little distance to each transition would be great.

core

Ziggurat isn't as close! Spacing them out some would definitely be sweet regardless.

Meldread

I love the redesign of the district, but I didn't even consider what has been suggested.  Now that it has been pointed out, I have to agree that it would likely be a good idea.

Barehander

Good luck doing that without having to rebuild half of the zone, though. But yes, a few more tiles with a curving alleyway should do the trick.

ScottyB

For cowards who want to flee a fight and stay out of the fight, a conversation-placeable won't work at all.

lovethesuit

tropic, you're one of the best newbs ever. We all like you just fine. Suggest away.

As for this, totally in agreement. It wouldn't take more than a few rounds to run from the Ziggurat to the Docks. Keep that fountain in the middle though, since it's such a nice set piece.

Cerberus

Start at the closest part of the fountain and run to the Zig...
Start at the closest part of the fountain and run to the docks...
 
We're talking 2 seconds (mostly because of a do-dah at the zig trns). At least twice now I've seen the action on the Zig side of the fountain giving them the advantage for transition abuse.
 
I say if you want to PvP then take advantage of the landscape of any map you wish to do it on. I would think setting the location of a PvP is part of the strategy involved and that nothing needs to be changed for the reasons given.
 
This is called strategy...

lovethesuit

Quote from: Cerberus;184543This is called stratagy...

Strictly speaking, it's called strategy, but okay.

Cerberus

Quote from: lovethesuit;184547Strictly speaking, it's called strategy, but okay.
lmao... If you're going to follow me around correcting my spelling you have your work cut out for you, but thanx for being so kind.
 
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