Tiefling or Aasimer???

[TheImpossibleDream]

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[Dr Dragon]

I say it would be neither Aasimar or tiefling considering Bahamut is a dragon.

[Pup]

I suppose you could be a descendant of a celestial servant of Bahamut, which could result in an aasimar.

If you were a direct descendant of Bahamut you would be far more powerful than a mere aasimar.

[RIPnogarD]

What about Null then?
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[Nightshadow]

Bahamut was and is a god, though at this time isn't particularly strong, but (SPOILER ALERT) will soon take over as god of justice after Tyr dies, I believe, within the next couple of years. (END SPOILER ALERT)

He is a lawful good god, his underlings are celestials and dragons, anyone who has Bahamut or one of his celestial somewhere in his family tree has a chance of being an aasimar. Any sorcerers also would probably have an extremely high chance of becoming a PDD (platinum dragon disciple) if it was Bahamut, or any metallic dragon disciple if it was one of his celestial/draconic servants.

As for what the Aasimar would look like, you're right in thinking it would look a lot like a tiefling. Horns, fangs, claws, a tail, but no wings (tieflings and aasimar never have wings, half-celestials and half-fiends do), though, yet keep in mind the +2 charisma and the fact that these wouldn't look evil and horrendous, but rather sort of weird yet also beautiful.

[Ebok]

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DrDragon and Pup are more correct then the above, which is strange and wrong. >_>

[Pup]

While I realize I've had some odd posts since my return, lumping me in with DrD is just mean.  :(

[Barehander]

Nope, Nightshadow is quite correct.

Bahamut is an Outsider, considering he isn't native to the Prime Material Plane. Bahamut is Good. Therefore, his descendants have a chance of being Aasimar. I assume we are talking descendants of the 1000th generation or so, not children.

Bahamut is a god, not a dragon. He may have been a powerful dragon once, but now he is a god and lately (I believe) part of the Faerûnian pantheon too, which makes him a human god (though not human himself). Just like Cyric, Red Knight and Midnight are Evil/Neutral/Good Outsiders and Kiaransalee is Evil Outsider. They were humans and drow, and still retain some traits of them, but they're not human or drow anymore. Just like Bahamut is not a normal dragon anymore. And the same goes for Mulhorandi and Untheric deities: their descendants are Aasimar, not half-bird or half-cow, despite the animalistic nature of the patrons.

Descendants of gods are Aasimar, Tiefling or (I suppose) Genasi. This is precesiely the reason for the abundance of Aasimar in the Realms. They're not super-powerful just because they're descended from the God-Kings of the Old Empires. They are the norm.

I suppose it would be appropriate to assume you had dragon blood instead. It manifests up to the 1000th generation or something, right? So you could probably become Dragon Disciple. Mind that this is speculation of "what makes sense." (If the children of gods ever do.) Strictly looking at the rules and definitions, the distant descendant of a Good God would be Aasimar.

[Ebok]

Since I re-read the initial inquiry.

Bahamut would neither have tieflings nor aasimar as his faith in our time-line was not tied into the human pantheon. We skipped that cannon. He was virtually unknown outside of a select few cults, and even then was not human deity. The realms added in some points to make him more a counter balance to Tiamat, and his dogma likewise has a human variation. Keep in mind, that these was added in to sell the coolness of dragons within the Dragon's of Faerun release. Even IF you went by the information there (much.. or all of it we have disregarded already), his first generation children would either still be alive, or just into their second gen. Definitely not aasimar time-line.

As a fix for this, wotc came out with a numerous ways to play things similar. From the Dragon Descended, the Dragonkin, and the Bahamut specific Dragonborn. Bahamut is not a super old human based peep, in fact in some accounts he was dead for a long time there.

Secondly, its incredible rare to know where your celestialisms came from. To trace it back to the Lord of the Metal Dragons is lol in an efu type setting. Mind you, this is really for a DM to decide in an app. You can bet the Bahamut will never be replacing Tyr in efu. You can also bet that any event that happened past the first faerun campaign setting has not occurred. We split from the main timeline there.

In the most basic sense:
Aasimar is the decendent of the celestial, angel or archon.
Tiefling is the decendent of crazyshit, devils or demons.
Genasi are the decendents of Jinn and Ginie (also outsiders btw)
There are races of Elvan and dwarvan mixes, we have corruption of bloodlines, Half Celestials, Half Dragons, Demigods, Chosen of gods, and about a dozen other outsider / human mix that equals something new entirely.

Good outsider doesn't automatically mean child = aasimar.
 
It might.

But it definitely will not equal tiefling.

[Ebok]

As for Null, that mean dragon would likely never even be mentioned to a human. Yet alone prayed to and have some offspring born of the alien mix... touch him and die? yeah I don't think a living dragon shaped sphere of annihilation will ever have descendants.

[Barehander]

Oh, we are not canon 3e timeline? Is there a detailed timeline including what events have or have not happened in our setting? I have no idea what tidbit is in what book, I just check things from the Grand History of the Realms.

It's worth noting that Bahamut is speculated to have been Marduk, the Untheric deity. Marduk was Tiamat's foe and counterpart in the Untheric pantheon, and later when Tiamat was identified as a dragon deity in 3e they added Bahamut to balance her.

I do believe you don't need to be an angel or such to spawn Aasimar. It's simply alignment-based. You can become a Genasi just by spending time on the Elemental Planes when you're in your mommy's womb (at least according to the original Planescape lore), whereas Rakshasa and Night Hags can spawn Tieflings, and Lillends and Couatls can spawn Aasimar. They have nothing else in common with fiends and angels than the fact that they're evil/good outsiders.

But I agree with you: there would be no reason for Bahamut's human descendants in the hundreth generation to exist, unless you assume that Marduk as the incarnated God-King of Unther was in fact Bahamut. Children of gods are also lame, and not a concept I'd probably approve as a DM. But theoretically, if there was a human with Bahamut's distant lineage manifest in him, I do think it would be Aasimar.

[RIPnogarD]

Ok... Lets push this thread in a bit of another dirrection, (my thread I can do that ;) )...

Say you wanted a Tiefling (yes, it has to look and feel Tiefling to those who view it). But you didn't want evil. Now I know you don't have to be evil but I want him to have that feel when people see and/or talk to him so Aasimar wouldn't work. In the app would you need to get into lineage? I don't want good either, I need neutral, so good or evil can't be detected (I want confusion). But I'm also looking for a justifiable reason to say I need the Tiefling as apposed to one of the base races.

I don't want to get into into my concept to spoil things but the above is the jyst of what I need and I stealthily 8-) started this thread in hopes of help.

[Barehander]

Urr, what?

The magical lineage of a tiefling comes from an Evil Outsider or the contamination of an evil plane. However, there's no need for the tiefling himself to be evil. They're inclined to evil, but ultimately they have free will like anyone. I can imagine a regular process of socialization and education would be enough to make most tieflings neutral. It's only because they're shunned and mistreated that their natural tendencies are so strong. Tieflings are no more Evil than dwarves are Lawful and elves Chaotic. Well, OK, maybe they're a bit more, but not overwhelmingly so.

I go by Races of Faerûn for the above. Monster Manual might disagree, but RoF overrules that old source.

[Oskar Maxon]

Aasling! :???:

Assling

[Ebok]

We typically break from cannon around 1372. Everything after, is actually irrelevant for our little corner of the multiverse. I can answer specifics, or you can find out around the forums, the old forums, or even asking people within the gameworld. Honestly, we're are in a setting that doesnt HAVE to hold every action true. Thats why Moander is alive, and Finder is a godly corpse. Its why you can try to raise Murkul, or run heretical clerics. Any major religion is subject to twisting of dogma in cool ways.

I'm on a tangent. PM me if you have questions or make a new thread! :D

On Tieflings. Some tieflings may not be evil, like some drow arent evil.... say 1 in 10000 might be nuetral, or 1 in 100000 might be good. You can bet, that since we're dealing with a grand total of something like 50 tieflings that'll hit the server, that every single one of them will be evil.

Playing a nonevil monster is hard in Faerun, since they are born that way. You can always try, but I'd suggest making something awesome out of something less off the wall. Just because it sounds rare and cool and awesome, doesnt mean it is.