Barkskin - Chauntea priestess

Pup · February 23, 2010, 07:13:12 AM

I wouldn't mind followers of Chauntea to get a reduction in cost. Followers of other nature deities, I'm not sold on.

AntoninD'Erlon · February 23, 2010, 08:06:40 AM

I still believe that 200 gold is far too much. You could reduce the casting level of this down to anything 7+ and still give out the +4 AC barkskin without the insane duration. -Most- quests don't even come near rewarding 200 gold for each person which would lead to a loss in most situations. Using stats to base an average player's gold is a bit misleading as well when some people have 20-30 thousand gold to throw those things off quite a bit.

I never debated that it wasn't used too often for what it was either. My argument here is that I believe there are better ways to fix the problem outside of a 200% gold increase.

- Reduce the caster level to 7-8 which would reduce the duration and charge 100 gold.

- Offer Barkskin (level 6 +3 AC) at 75 gold and Greater Barkskin(level 10-12 +4 AC) at 200 gold.

- Have her sell divine potions at a reasonable NPC cost, something around 50% more than a 'typical' brewer would sell them for.

derfo · February 23, 2010, 09:40:04 AM

offer barkskin potions for roughly a hundred gold or locatable on quests to provide it to those who want it on the go ! praise chauntea so long as her prices are acceptable anyways

AntoninD'Erlon · February 23, 2010, 09:47:16 AM

Praise Derf 3/week troll specials

FleetingHeart · February 23, 2010, 12:18:28 PM

Quote from: AntoninD'Erlon;168959I still believe that 200 gold is far too much. You could reduce the casting level of this down to anything 7+ and still give out the +4 AC barkskin without the insane duration. -Most- quests don't even come near rewarding 200 gold for each person which would lead to a loss in most situations. Using stats to base an average player's gold is a bit misleading as well when some people have 20-30 thousand gold to throw those things off quite a bit.

I never debated that it wasn't used too often for what it was either. My argument here is that I believe there are better ways to fix the problem outside of a 200% gold increase.

- Reduce the caster level to 7-8 which would reduce the duration and charge 100 gold.

- Offer Barkskin (level 6 +3 AC) at 75 gold and Greater Barkskin(level 10-12 +4 AC) at 200 gold.

- Have her sell divine potions at a reasonable NPC cost, something around 50% more than a 'typical' brewer would sell them for.

The value isn't in how much gold you are payed. It's in how many consumables you did not use because you were A) Taking fewer hits and thus using less healing, and B) because you didn't have to renew your bark skin with yet another potion mid fight.

Furthermore, offering a lower duration variant simply isn't feasible. You'd barely even get to any of the QAs while it was still worth a damn.

RIPnogarD · February 23, 2010, 12:51:52 PM

Perhaps the cost reduction should not be for followers of Chauntea, but (like Olo) those that becaome part of the Chauntea temple faction. (You know, the "city-bound" clerics & druids. ;) )

UnholyWon · February 23, 2010, 12:53:01 PM

What I have more of a problem with is why would Mother Oggla(sp?) suddenly triple the price of spell when the donations that were being generated was incredible. At 50 gold, even simple town's people could aviod protection for their families from the nightrisers at night.

Outside of game mechanics this makes perfect sense, raising the price of the donation for extended Barkskin. What is the IG world changes that are taking place? A little explanation for basis of the changes outside of the game to IG is what I'm really lookin for.

Perhaps Mother Oggla has become disgusted with all the non-believers of Chauntea (Jannath) making donations in order to be blessed, and now requires a greater testiment of faith.

Mother Oggla's divine energy is weakening from the spells, or something etc....

Place something IG maybe via scripted dialogue that relates to the out of game decision.

FleetingHeart · February 23, 2010, 05:53:44 PM

She had a dream wherein Chauntea chastised her for squandering the power she has been granted. :-P

Dont worry about the IC aspect. Think more along the lines that it was -always- 200 gold. Nothing has changed for your characters.

UnholyWon · February 24, 2010, 12:01:17 AM

Smarty pants :mrgreen:

Ommadawn · February 24, 2010, 01:51:14 AM

I'm all for a (small) discount for fellow Chauntea worshipers.

<_<

johanmaxon · February 24, 2010, 05:13:15 PM

RwG posted that a cleric walking around selling str, etc etc. We're not allowed to do that and then bring it into a quest, so it is not that useful :(

Prebuffed level 2 with +14 ab and 15-20 dmg, someone didn't like that.... Hummm...

Box · February 25, 2010, 01:47:35 AM

I think you guys are making a big deal out of something which is healthy for the server IMO.

I don't know about the rest of you, but it really grinds my gears when person A says "Hey I think we should go explore some cave by the beach." To which person B responds "Sure, let me go to the chauntean temple first though!"

The chauntean preistess was easily the wealthiest and most important NPC in the setting to many people, and that just plain irked me tbh. Literally any time anyone planned on doing anything, it was pretty much server standard for most to go to the temple first.

If anything this price increase is a staggeringly huge improvement, the only better step would be removing the barkskin entirely and replacing it with an extended shield of faith IMO!

@Johan's above post : You're allowed to sell buffs for people about to go questing as a PC cleric/mage, for sure! You just need to charge a reasonable amount, as in no 50 gold for a full set of 8+ buffs. Barring circumstances like a person who died going back into a solo Q/A to get their stuff, etc. you should use your head and charge a reasonable or UNreasonably high price for your services.