Power to the... Eyeball!?

Started by Meldread, February 14, 2010, 12:35:20 AM

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FleetingHeart

I will own that these do have far fewer uses of their rays than I had intended. Not really sure what happened there.

Anyway, I'm in the process of updating them. Don't have a clue how to fix the issue with Prot/Alignment though.

Meldread

I can also confirm once again that when the Eyeball is killed you lose 100XP and take some minor damage.  My poor Eyeball was executed again today. :(

I'm not sure why Protection from Alignment doesn't work either.  I can say this:  When you select the ability from the radial menu it says "Protection From Alignment" but when it is hot keyed it says "Protection From Evil."  It is broken in the sense that once hot keyed it is grayed out and thus unusable.

I would also point out that Protection from Alignment is not exactly the most useful ability for the Eyeball to have... it doesn't even make sense thematically.  (Why is a Chaotic Evil floating Aberrant Eyeball protecting you from evil?)

Every wizard should have access to Protection from Alignment since it is an Abjuration spell, and there are no spell schools that oppose Abjuration.  It is mildly useful to Sorcerers if they do not take Protection from Alignment, but of course using the familiar to get the protection could in turn get the Sorcerer, the eyeball, or both of them killed.  >_>

Also, I don't think the eyeball is getting any benefits for being super small.  It's about the size of a fist, making it even smaller than a halflings head.  It likely doesn't have the correct size modifier.

FleetingHeart

XP loss and damage is -not- a bug. This is standard with -all- familiars.

Can you use Prot Alignment without hotkeying it? ie, right click the target and cast the spell through the radial?

It's meant as a free spell. Free. Doesn't matter if you have it or not, it's just a free cast.

And no, it isn't benefitting from being tiny apart from the AC it was given. There is no way to set size modifiers on scaled creatures. This was simply an asthetics change. Nothing more.

Oskar Maxon

FleetingHeart: From what I understand there was a rumour earlier in the thread that there was a bug which meant the owner did -not- lose xp/hp when his familiar died, which was what Melread responded to.

Meldread

Oskar Maxon is correct.  Derflaro said that he didn't think the XP loss happened, and that he believed it was a bug.  I was just confirming for a second time that it does indeed happen, as my eyeball was smote today.  I also didn't believe it was a bug, since it worked similar on EfU.

In addition, I've tried casting PfE from the radial menu.  The familiar does attempt to cast the spell, but it does not work.  Nothing happens.

derfo

Quote from: Meldread;167410It happens.  My first eyeball was horribly murdered and I lost 100 XP and I think took 1 to 4 points of damage.

Another testament to the rat familiar's power, then.

Underbard

The eyeball definitely could use some beefing up, just for the chance of getting offed on sight that it brings.