RP vs PvP

[lovethesuit]

That'd odd, I remember several discussions in the DM channel where you basically admitted it was just because you were scared of me having access to L6 spells!

Now you have Hellball. :???:

[Dr Dragon]

To say only rogues should be bandits is sad and LOL. Considering some of the best criminals on the server have been pure fighters clerics ETC. Also lets not forget De Olid a ftr/brd. Or Zau one of the servers most skilled hitmen who was a pure ftr. Maalgor a pure cleric. While yes rogues make skilled criminals and can pick locks stealth in addition to handling traps however brutes/thugs are some of the most effective bandits of all time. To say only rogues should be criminals is foolish and retarded.

[derfo]

And to you derf... This isnt all about Greeley and Olo. It's about the situation in general so there is no need to defend your friend with smartass comments.

When it comes down to it, it is actually about Greeley and Olo! Why else would this topic not focus around their situation as an example?

I already stated the truths that everyone else repeated in their own way here; defending my friend in amusing ways is just icing on the cake (not that were he wrongful I would do it in a serious manner). Overall I would suggest you try to see it from the point of view of other players or the DMs. It it just a game!

I hope that you realize your misconceptions and I sincerely apologize for trying to help you in doing so. I have made these mistakes before also.

[eliff]

PvP sometimes gets sour, people get annoyed it's going to happen but the point I feel is that you seem to think it's unfair.  It probably is unfair and I hate to quote the old saying but life isn't fair.  A street mugger won't give you a chance to explain in all honesty.  It's a fine line between fun and realism ( yes i know it's a game I mean realism for that world).  It's easy to be frustrated but it's easier to forgive and move on.  200 gold really isn't a lot I mean my Druid probably would give you that if you proved you were mugged.  Tbh ragequit doesn't help and you feel kinda silly afterwards.  If you return I'm sure no one will think any less as LTS says.

[ExileStrife]

That'd odd, I remember several discussions in the DM channel where you basically admitted it was just because you were scared of me having access to L6 spells!

I will rekindle this again JUST BECAUSE I CAN

There were like three major components that were battling back and forth to get either the "real issue" or "crummy excuse" titles.

- Level 6 spells not balanced
- RPing a rogue but playing a wizard
- Needs to do something to earn it

[Dr Dragon]

I will rekindle this again JUST BECAUSE I CAN

There were like three major components that were battling back and forth to get either the "real issue" or "crummy excuse" titles.

- Level 6 spells not balanced
- RPing a rogue but playing a wizard
- Needs to do something to earn it

How was he rping a rogue? He used nothing but wizard spells.

[Figaro]

as opposed to rogue spells?

[ExileStrife]

You don't want to know, Dr Dragon.  You don't want to know.

-- There is a major who-ha that happens behind the scenes whenever a character gets to level 9 or so and Craddock happened to be an especially major one.  This is usually not shared, but I spilled it here for the heck of it.

[RIPnogarD]

We do expect people to accurately represent the class they've chosen and we put especially high scrutiny on high-level characters.

With that, enough is said about it. Ya'll can continue to call me names now if you like.
:rolleyes:

[ExileStrife]

I need to make another ammedment.  Class interpretations DO need to be "loose," like in Howland's example.  Craddock DID earn the right for level 11, but the DM team messed up in trying to determine if Craddock was a legit play or not and couldn't decide in time.  I'm just emphasizing that the scrutiny is there and DOES happen, though it's not always perfect.

[BigBadThief]

I don't recall anyone calling you names. Also, being a Rogue does not mean you are a thief. You're quoting something that has no relation on your situation at all, not to mention that fact that Greeley was in fact a Rogue and by your terms that makes it legit for him to be a thief.

As for the statement itself - If a Wizard spends the time, skills, and even feats to become quite skilled at something outside of being a typical Wizard that hardly means they aren't representing their class. I don't know about you but when I play a Wizard I don't spent a huge majority of my time emoting reading books and spending countless hours studying the finer details of spells. That is assumed information and like it was stated in IRC earlier, you don't expect a Fighter to emote doing push-ups or jogging or perfecting their sword strikes against dummies. All of that is represented in itself by experience points and while some of it can add flavor to a character it's entirely silly to claim that someone going outside of the box a bit is not representing their class.

[Caddies]

BigBadThief is on the money.

Closing thread, I think its run its course.