How to include others.

[Dr Dragon]

A factor to EFUA and claiming power on EFU is using goals to include others. First get an alignment decide what goals go along with that alignment and then think "How can I include others." Also a key thing about including others is how can you attract both allies and enemies. I will be typing about PCS and how they included others and will even list an alignment. Here is a list of PCS and how I felt they included others and I will show how with just about any alignment including people can be achieved.  


LG Sunellar Watch LT In the watch he used his influence and power during a turbulent time to make friends with New Dunwarren as well as other good aligned PCS and used his position in the watch to clear the place of evil aligned PCS. Preventing evil aligned people from joining the watch for the most part. He also united people and worked behind the scenes against the evil spellguard. He also worked against team criminal banding non evil PCS and other watchmen on crackdown on crime including causing a riot in the middle of Lowers streets.

LN Kharst  He brought the Dwarf PCS together and formed a huge stable clan equal to the stouthearts in the UD. While at the same time he pushed the agenda of the noble house Sharboneth for his epicness in including tons of PCS he got to slay a PC giant and even acquire his own cave and npcs. I remember when he was banding loads of PCS together for the sake of defending his new cave against savage Orcs. He also heavily included house Sharboneth and supported and isolationist policy of getting House Sharboneth uninvolved in praxe's war.

LE Rinaldo Montezzi-Owner of House Montezzi and to me showed the extent of power a player faction can achieve banded together variouse evil and vile PCS as well as power hungry PCS into following his entourage. Then with his band of soldiers he began killing rebels/gangsters and ended up taking over lower. He Litterally brought the server together had many clandenstide plots and even infiltrated many of the servers player and DM factions. Sucessfully learning many crazy server secrets. He has had to constantly struggle with those whom opposed him before finally being recognized by Upper as lower being "His domain" He even forced monsters to work for him and had many deals with the underdarks slavers. In my mind Rinaldo included tons of PCS both friends and enemies alike. He has proven what well cordinated PCS can achieve in their own means.    



NG Conrad De Sonnac One of the earliest members of the Order he mainly banded together team good and challenged many of the servers prominent villains including mysef to duels to the death and won loads of them. He also had many shady deals and plotted with other good aligned people unafraid of acting outside of the rule of law. His death even sparked npcs and pcs to riot and run the Fellowship of the Cheerful dead out of the city. His life and death were both epic. He even got close to being promoted to knight. He basically led a lot of PCS at the forefront against necromancy and I applaud him


TN Haley Mendon She took the crumbling Chang Diner I left behind and turned it into a goldmine taking up a "I dont care policy" She brought in all manner of PCS and backgrounds and had huge relations  and always took a popular stance which kept her businesse thriving. She also became a magistrate and lead the forefront against getting necromancy made illegal. She also recruited many of the servers merchants and gained a huge amount of political power from Magistrate to Vice Counsel of the Patricians  court. What Liked about her was always tried to garner allies and perfered to distance herself from enemies. She even managed to gain her own land the old Proverson Merchant house and had a very epic character death. She even became one of the servers prominent figures in my opinion she was a awesome PC.    



NE  Francisco De Olid the first Stygian PC. He gathered a band of unsavory pcs and monsters and formed a band of thugs. He was also heavily involved in slavery and in my opinion was one of the servers first big villains. Working against any establishment of law and beating down people to fill the pockets of his men. While at the same time held a facade as being innocent and attacking those who plotted against him. He constantly stood against the rule of law and was secretly a cultist of Mask one of the many reasons he stood against the Amunator worshipers. Because of his group being so Epic the Dms gave him a plot. (the Targan war blades.) In my opinion he started the fearsome reputation of the Armada including the PCS general dislike of the entire faction he was an epic PC who died in an epic duel to the death. His actions included a wide range of players including many of his enemies the goal of being a criminal will always work because it will always bring enemies and conflict which Olid def did it.








CG Vlad A Barbaric savage while at the same time a bastion of goodness mixed with savagry. He also has proven he is not afraid of killing tons of evil Pcs including known slavers and necromancers. in my opinion he was one of the few proactive good pcs who did not let the law stop him while at the same time showed he was a barbaric and chaotic savage a truly epic PC who included tons of players and got loads of Stygian PCS and team law to rally against him and even managed to raid the city bringing down tons of PCS and NPCS with him. in my opinion he brought many of team good together and managed to accomplish a lot truly one of few good PCS who showed his willingness to fight evil.




CN Ferius Worn A champion of lower ideas and philosophy. He did many behind the scene plotting and rallied the people of Lower against Upper. He even managed to acquire his own stew shop IG. And ran for council and won pushing forth the agenda of radicals in Lower eventually he was exiled after it was discovered he took part in a sewer town revolt and in the future joined the seekers. He then blew up his own stew shop after realizing his nephew Caleb was using it as a base of operations for a vile Devil cult and managed to actually escape from the underdark a true goal and dream of most Seekers!


CE CAPTAIN THORNE AKA CELESTE MACASTA PLAYED BY THE LEGENDERY Character Deputy COOL.  

Captain Macasta was thought to be a simple noble pc but then partook in a murder in the canal ward. She was able to unite many of the servers criminal PCS and actually strike people in the middle of the street robbing numerouse wealthy PCS and fat cats. She even held the firehearts for ransom and assasinated a councilor for not paying to release his own family. She even discovered her own hideout to use out in the underdark adapting to the land of the server. She even had the coins to bribe a few corrupt members *coughs Konus Sten* of the Watch to pass her information. She like Ferius Warn went out in a bane blowing herself up in her cell. In my opinion she included tons of PCS and managed to have one of EFUS biggest criminal operations. She also had notably a lot of enemies in my opinion Macasta was great because she gave people with money reasons to fear and ganked people in the middle of the streets shes proven that evil pcs with enough allies can gain vast wealth she has proven that crime pays well.    


All you need is goals and other PCS willing to support you. Pretty much any goal can be done with PC Support and intelligent moves made in the right direction.

[lovethesuit]

tl;dr

[slimyhotdog]

ok?

[Relinquish]

Tells what they did, not how they did it. IMO.

[djspectre]

Honestly I think the simplest way to include other players is to clearly understand the goals of your character and then searching out other characters who've got similar goals or interests and who also possess skill-sets that supplement your own to achieve those goals.

Or.......


.....make a sending!

[Portal Rat]

tl;dr

I read the whole thing and found it edifying.

[Letsplayforfun]

I would add: try to see how other people's goals can fit into yours, so that your goal becomes other peoples' secondary goals, too.

I've seen some groups follow 'strictly' their own faction agendas, bringing them to exclude other players.

[AfroMullet]

Excellent post.

[MisterBriggs]

Dr Dragon's Essay on EfU:A

[PeterFerFloneeboup]

How to include others

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[derfo]

Hey DRD! Nice list, here's my own:

LG Luther Hornraven: A stand up guy and a vital piece of the anti-Montezzi opposition Luther was not only a hero but a beacon of light for the dwarven people and all who aligned themselves with New Dunwarren, involving hundreds of players.

NG Carl McDougal: The epitome of good, Carl McDougal did all within his power to put a stop to tyranny and evil being a vital component in the destruction of the Dread Crew while portraying a likable and deep character.

CG Vladimir Antonov: Another ideal watchman and a significant example of goodness without boundaries Vladimir pursued the destruction of dozens of villians while involving of course dozens of players to boot. He was also the hero that destroyed the vile terrorbringer Sluglick.

LN Gaston Berengar: One of the leaders of the most beloved noble house Gaston rallied the majority of the player base during his existence to further his own seemingly benign ends.

TN Malthus Danesk: The most terrifying neutral blue tiefling ever to grace the depths of the underdark, Malthus brought together dozens of Malthus supporters to neutrality. Kudos on bringing so much out of such a tough alignment, especially a tiefling of neutrality, whoever his player was.

CN Gregorio Baurov: A jolly half-orc and a unique being all together Gregorio brought together multiple diverse PCs from all race, alignments, classes, and trades of life into his own performance creating a wondrous array of color and spice to Sanctuary.

LE Belarius Helfenstien: A Hoaran\\\\\\\\\\\\

NE Francisco De Olid: the first Stygian PC. He gathered a band of unsavory pcs and monsters and formed a band of thugs. He was also heavily involved in slavery and in my opinion was one of the servers first big villains. Working against any establishment of law and beating down people to fill the pockets of his men. While at the same time held a facade as being innocent and attacking those who plotted against him. He constantly stood against the rule of law and was secretly a cultist of Mask one of the many reasons he stood against the Amunator worshipers. Because of his group being so Epic the Dms gave him a plot. (the Targan war blades.) In my opinion he started the fearsome reputation of the Armada including the PCS general dislike of the entire faction he was an epic PC who died in an epic duel to the death. His actions included a wide range of players including many of his enemies the goal of being a criminal will always work because it will always bring enemies and conflict which Olid def did it.

CE Horace Greeley: The ultimate knight of darkness and prebuff ganker Horace gathered hundreds, even thousands to his banner and changed the face of Ymph as we know it forever.

[Elytherin Dragonius]

lol here is a brilliant idea,

Sit down with people you play alongside alot and have a talk about what kinda characters their planning on rolling next, come up with a new/fresh idea or atleast one that hasnt been done in a while, make a group concept and get out there, you dont have to do anything to add others into your plots when you do this, they simply just happen... Take the blood legion  or umbaktu for instance...

Btw the bots made this thread amusing ^^)

[TheImpossibleDream]

lol here is a brilliant idea,

Sit down with people you play alongside alot and have a talk about what kinda characters their planning on rolling next, come up with a new/fresh idea or atleast one that hasnt been done in a while, make a group concept and get out there, you dont have to do anything to add others into your plots when you do this, they simply just happen... Take the blood legion  or umbaktu for instance...

Btw the bots made this thread amusing ^^)

Group concepts are nice in 2's and 3's anything more and you're all less likely to stick to it. Better to recruit in game than out of anyway.

[9lives]

Group concepts rarely have a good dynamic, or interesting rapport - Unless it is actually worked out beforehand, which sort of takes some of the zing out of it.