Tone down assasin vines.

[eliff]

I really think these should be toned down a little.  Maybe one of those things could be brought down a little as they murder any sneak or invis wizard with ridiculous ease.

[Paha]

They are dangerous, and that is fine in a sense. I would though like if they would not run like hasted monks. They are faaaaaast.

[Garem]

I can understand where you're coming from. I would suggest a different angle, though.

Make them spawn as single enemies, especially since they have great HP.

or

Make them spawn in 2-4s , but with low hp to represent beating back the big evil plant's many appendages. This would make spells like Burning Hands particularly effective in beating them back, which makes perfect sense and just sounds cool. >.>

[PlayaCharacter]

I'm kind of sort of leaning toward agreeing with this post, but I also kind of like the fact that they kick so much butt. It is impossible to travel alone when they are around.

[BoomdaddyBP]

They don't need to be toned down really. At the very most, I could see limiting their spawn together number to two.

[BrittanyPanthas]

I'm against toning these down.

The areas they're in are pretty obvious, you shouldn't be going alone into those areas unless you're willing to take great risk.

[Disco]

There are lots of things out there that will protect you from them. Sure they will eat any lone mage sneaking arround invisible, but that is fine imo.

[Egon the Monkey]

Despite what Brit says, they spawn in a lot more areas than you might think. I've ran into them nowhere near the bogs.

I would suggest just making them slow. Then they are still a surprising danger but if the first shot doesn't kill you you can actually make a getaway.

[Kotenku]

Assassin Vines need to be added to the Hero spawns system, tbh.

[Thomas_Not_very_wise]

Totally what Kotenku says.

In other news, three max seems reasonable.

[Relinquish]

I've snuck around assassin vines before >_>

[Drakill Tannan]

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[BrittanyPanthas]

My suggestion then, if people are absolutely dead set on these being changed is to make two forms of assassin vines.  Lesser, and Greater.  Greater would be the current kind.  Lesser would have 2 less AB, 2 less DC on its parlyze, and move slowly.

[FleetingHeart]

Bogs are notoriously dangerous places to walk alone.

http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/bog/

Since having people sink down into the muck randomly and die kinda sucks... I feel assassin vines are a perfect compromise to this. Yes, they are fast, but you can outrun them if you're alone and paying attention. Or, you could just avoid going into the bogs alone and be prepared to deal with the dangers that lurk there.

[Egon the Monkey]

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