Elves of Faerun

Started by TomBanana, September 14, 2009, 02:18:44 PM

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TomBanana

Elves of the Forgotten Realms are known to differ physically from typical Dungeons & Dragons elves in that they are as tall as humans (5′9″ on average), or even taller.

My suggestion is to re-scale them, to be a bit bigger, so they don't get confused with halflings the way they are designed right now. Bioware was so faithful with the 3.0 elves description, that they forgot that Neverwinter (where the game is situated) is actually in Faerun, a place where elves are larger. Now, I am suggesting this having no idea if it is ever possible. I also searched for an override, so I could solve the 'problem' here in my end at least, but have not found that as well. Please, if anyone knows about that, send a word. Thanks.

Finktank

I don't think I've ever once heard of an elf phenotype getting mistaken for a halfling.

Fliggin McButton

Though I agree this suggestion has merit, and personally it is something that has bothered me since the dawn of the game, I am not sure if it is possible. If it is, I am not sure it would be worth the effort that I imagine would be required.

However, as I stated, I do think this would be nice to see.

SkillFocuspwn

I've asked a different question of rescaling before and been told it's impossible to change PC sizes like you can NPCs. You'd also have to notice that it'd make Elves wider too though, and might just make them look obese.

ScottyB

NWN was in the works before WotC even finished the 3rd edition rules, so don't mistake anything for "faithfulness."

That said: not possible, and still wouldn't look right even if it was.

Capricious

Eh, elves have been near human height according to Realms canon all the way back in the AD&D days, I should know I have the original gray sourcebook. But yeah, I don't see this as a big thing regardless, we're just stuck with shorter elves in NWN.

TomBanana

Quote from: Capricious;144908Eh, elves have been near human height according to Realms canon all the way back in the AD&D days, I should know I have the original gray sourcebook. But yeah, I don't see this as a big thing regardless, we're just stuck with shorter elves in NWN.

I agree it is not a big thing, it is not at all. It just bothers me, maybe I'll work on finding some override for me, since it is only a visual issue. It just bothers me to a point of avoiding playing elves. The suggestion was just because I assumed scaling was something that would come easy with the latest patch. It seems it is not, and not desirable either. Well, just if any of you know of an override that could change that, please, link me.

PlayaCharacter

If you wanted to do this you would need haks or overrides, it would be a tremendous amount of work, and all for only a cosmetic benefit.

TomBanana

I'd rather just stay away from haks, I'd only think it's acceptable if possible with overrides

ScottyB

Scaling for non-dynamic creatures was added in the last patch. This doesn't work with part-based creatures like PCs. It also resizes on every axis in increments of 10%, so they might appear bulkier as well as taller, possibly ending up even larger than humans (since we can't "tune" the step).

Anyways, even if this was possible, then for those of us who have been playing NWN for the past 7 years oblivious to the elven height issue we'd be the ones suddenly uncomfortable with the resized elves. So yeah. Let's drop it.

9lives

All Elves are shorter than humans, and all humans are well muscled and exactly the same height.

Secutor

And most gnomes have bombastic hats.