Use Haks.

Started by Cruzel, August 10, 2009, 07:50:04 AM

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derfo

i like how everyone is like "haks bring a lot" but no one really gives an example of anything groundbreaking except meldread about tits or some shit

Thomas_Not_very_wise

New horses, weapon appearances, greater customization of clothing, suits, and armor. Greater Versatility when it comes to new tilesets, new creature spawns to add to the enormous creature ranks of EFU:A already has.

More importantly, DINOSAUR SPAWNS.

derfo

wow we really need horses am i right

wow different looking weapons and armor are really important

tilesets that aren't needed considering what has been built

you already stated that efu has an enormous amount of creatures anyways so what is the amazing benefit in that?

how is that worth really isolating the server which makes up for most of those things through creativity already and forcing me to download a bunch of bullshit files?

Mort

I'm sure there are a few good haks here but there is a lot of crap... Feel free to suggest particular haks. -- As is, Probably not going to go through all the nwn vault for this.

Besides, base nwn and expansions probably already offer the highest quality/optimized tileset, placeables, monsters... there are. With a little creativity in the toolset we can create areas which feel extremely unique and beautiful without any need for haks already.

My only beef is headsets, but it's not that big of a deal.

sobe-real

Quote from: Cruzel;139985The NWN community is closed and dying.

I'd say that this is untrue. I'd forecast it staying at its present state for 2 more years. While people are quitting, alot of people are discovering roleplaying, or returning from long hiatuses, and if you've been over at CoA recently, or Amia, there are alot of new players coming in.

I think the best way to get more players would be a drastic change or event causing a spur in curiosity in new or returning players.


The haks, while i wouldnt really mind them, do have downsides, though a minimal amount of haks might actually be a boon to the server.



Also, on a side note, i think a change or tweaking with the Gamespy server name might spark even a few people's curiosity. Perhaps something more eyecatching than just "Escape from the Underdark"

sobe-real

I also believe the lack of players at the current time is less because of content and more because of circumstance.

OrchardOfMines

Adding dinosaur spawns (and more importantly dinosaur companions for Ubtao druids) is the only reason I would ever endorse using a hak.

Decimate_The_Weak

I don't think Haks are worth it. It limits the already low population.
 
Not to mention, a decent portion of the server runs on slow internet connections, and some Hak packs are too large to download without the connection pissing itself off. >_>

Requiem

The only thing I would ever download a hak for is a maul.

PlayaCharacter

Quote from: Mort;140118My only beef is headsets, but it's not that big of a deal.

We can do that with an override. Please please pretty please please...

Blake the Boar

Will the use of haks influence negatively towards the server smoothness?
NO - Then, I am totally for it
YES, but only 1.2% - HELL NO!

ScottyB

There are very, very many excellent hak-paks, buried in a sea of junk.

According to nwn.bioware.com, there are over 1000 players on NWN right now, at midnight US CST. I can't remember how to look up the numbers for NWN2, but I recall that they're doing better than the sequel. In any case, NWN is not a community of a mere few hundred.

I think the use of hakpaks would have to be very carefully considered. Every content addition should be carefully selected. It should have a clear purpose, and it should work.

It would be a large undertaking, and I think the EFU DMs (the ones who actually do something, unlike me) are still going strong with ideas that use NWN and NWNX - features that you, the players, don't need to worry about beyond logging in and executing the commands.

We shouldn't be opposed to hakpaks, but they should be a very low priority at the moment. It should only be looked at when the drive to do it right is available.

TheWastesAreFrozen

Maybe for EFU: Moon Surface, or whatever comes next!

Jasede

EFU: Wiggyboy's Stomach

Meldread

Quote from: derflaro;140098i like how everyone is like "haks bring a lot" but no one really gives an example of anything groundbreaking except meldread about tits or some shit

Of course.  I'm always helpful.  Low population problems?  Appeal to straight male nerd sexual frustration with pixelated jiggly boobs and ass.

But seriously, I'm happy with EfU:A with or without haks.  I understand the advantages and disadvantages of haks.

Disadvantages:
- People have to download them in order to play on EfU:A.
- A handful of people might be turned away.

Advantages:
- New spells.
- New weapons.
- New PrC's - that actually work!
- More clothing options.
- Additional tilesets.
- Easier, in some cases, to modify things (and to give it a more proffessional feel).
- A handful of people might be attracted to a server that offers custom content.

I am not convinced by the argument that haks would hurt EfU:A.  I think in terms of population it would be a wash overall, with the possibility of attracting older players of NWN to the server.  In my mind, it is just a matter of the DM's commitment to custom content.  If they really aren't interested in adding lots of custom content then it most likely is not worth the hassle.