Plants

[lovethesuit]

I was picking coconuts off of a coconut palm earlier, when I realized that it had turned off my stealth. A jaguar came up and killed me in three hits before I could even get animal empathy off. This isn't a problem with those quest placeables like the brown bush or the grass in the outer wall forest. Would it be possible to fix the conversations to allow the stealthy picking from plants?

[Drakill Tannan]

Herbalism has killed a couple characters of mine in the same way. Damn jungle panthers.

[FleetingHeart]

While I would love this, I think the general idea is that it is not a quiet practice. Picking a coconut, for example, would require either climbing the tree or shaking it violently until coconuts drop to the ground.

Some things certainly could be quieter or stealthier actions, like picking foxberries or similar, but it is probably easier to just leave them all as stealth breakers, rather than pick and chose which will and which will not break stealth.

[Kotenku]

The fact that you may have to bring somebody to fight monsters for you so that you can pick up reagents, seems to me a positive thing.

[Cruzel]

Would it be possible to fix the conversations to allow the stealthy picking from plants?

This would indeed be possible sir.

[FleetingHeart]

Well, I agree kotenku.. except almost every mage dabbling in alchemy basically can go invis, run out to their favorite herbing spot and go nuts with little to no risk. Stealthers (rangers/druids) don't really have that option.

But, meh. Honestly the system is fine. Just means taking some precautions, since the possibility of stealthed mobs is always a threat.

[Drakill Tannan]

I think if one can quietly walk in front of an ogre and remain undetected, one can make a cutting, take a berry, even silently climb a coconut palm cut a coconut and silently drop to the ground undetected. Besides, what about a druid who wants to avoid killing jungle cats? stealth is the way to go, and if you can't stealth while collecting herbs then you have to chose in between protecting the wildlife or gathering herbs.

[FleetingHeart]

Druids can empathy those jungle cats for a reason.

Yes, there will be times when there are multiples lying in wait. These are the times that, when alone you either fight or flee. If you really want to play the tree hugging vegan druid though, just pretend you're subduing the cats... Relocate them afterwards. I've done this before in other situations and it actually led to some nice roleplay.

[eliff]

I always just take the precaution of getting invis pots for picking plants, I do so regularly on my ranger who has stealth.  Just stealth around but use invis to pick the plants.  Or get group and kill whatever lurks.  I've died once out in the wilds on that guy and it's not through those plants just a stupid decision to fight a shargaas disciple.

[The Beggar]

Chuck Norris doesn't pcik coconuts. The tree shakes in fear of Chuck Norris, dropping it's coconuts to appease him. Be like Chuck LTS.

EfUA is a dangerous place, sort of like the underdark. It's untamed, and personally, I like the nasty spawns. You don't want it civilized, now do you?

[lovethesuit]

I'd be happy if I didn't have to choose between exploring and dying.

[ExileStrife]

You don't have to choose.  You can do them both.

[Drakill Tannan]

...wait a minute, that's not scottyB!

Anyway. I would too, like the option to explore alone while stealth or invisible to gather plants and herbs without the need to find people to help, wich is pretty dificult in my experience. A character with a good stealth should be able to do so with minimun risk IMO.

[FleetingHeart]

I had moderate stealth on my last character and went almost everywhere alone. I even stopped to pick quite a few herbs. You just need to learn where is safe and where is dangerous and take appropriate precautions. Some herbs, as you are finding, simply are not safe to pick. Maybe find a way to get their seeds and plant them where it is safe.

[Pinefish]

Perhaps to please both sides of this argument you could have to make a ms roll to stay in stealth, if that is possable, to represent that you have gathered the said plant but without making so much noise as to aleart any near by beasts.