A more permanent attack for arcane spellcasters

[lovethesuit]

Suggestion:

Implement a custom PrC with very low requirements and no app necessary. It turns a wizard or sorcerer into a Warlock and allows for unlimited uses of an extremely limited number of abilities per day.

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But they lose their wizard level

[VanillaPudding]

It's a real fine line between keeping fireball throwing wizards useless and making them godly. Even if a Wizard prepared only offensive magic, currently, they would be pretty useless on nearly all quests in EFU.

Sadly it's the nature of the beast, it's nwn and not PnP and encounters happen hundreds of times more often and when you add in lengthy quests you simply can not play an offensive mage effectively.

[FanaticusIncendi]

I like the idea of less expensive mini-wands with 5 charges or so. I am almost never able to craft a wand because of lack of funds.

[ExileStrife]

I don't particularily like the idea of cheap level four wands

[Listen in Silence]

What Strife said.

[Blubie]

wizards do suck tho

[Germain]

In no way is this officially endorsed by me typing this...

How would you wizard folks feel about the ability to purchase cantrip wands from a NPC vendor?  It would at least allow the general populace of mage types to look and attack a bit more magically.  Even if they can't rub two sticks together to make fire themselves.

[Random_White_Guy]

Wizards are ridiculously useful/powerful on EFU. Its TOO EASY[/b] to be a wizard as it is. Adding cheaper wands or what have you will make it ridiculous and borderline obscene.

As a firm beliver of GSF Evocation and not-buffing, I assure you they can do substantial work along the way without "Going nova".

You simply have to be able to pick your moment to bring the hurt, but a single evocation spell can change the tide of an entire battle. You don't need to freak out, haste, and spam a ton of magic missles (Don't get me wrong, its one, its one of my favorite wizard tactics), but one well placed evocation mid-battle can make all the difference in the world.

Its a fun trade off, but Evokers shouldn't use Crossbows.

I'd rather have a Wizard in the back, surveying the scene, barking orders and such since Evokers are traditionally more militaristic wizards.

[size=8] Wizards trying to launch a crossbow with their pathetic 3 or 4 AB on a mid/high range is annoying. [/size]

Everyone has their place on the battlefield. A Wizards is to the back or to the flank.

Put that high int to use and start throwing out tactical advice, looking for weakness, and applying pressure to the right places.

Feel free to bring wands to compensate for buffing, but as someone who plays almost nothing but evokers, your job is to bring the pain.

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[derfo]

why can't you just buy cantrip wands from a pc

[Thomas_Not_very_wise]

(Rolls in the dirt and laughs at all of you, gasping for breath and finally dying of suffocation.)

Wizards. Do. Not. Need. Help.

Haste. Fireball Spam. Dead Enemies en masse. Scintilizing Sphere, all at level 5. And All can take down a level 9 warrior, EASILY.

Offensive wizards should know WHEN TO PLACE WHERE. It takes a bit of practice, but once you get the hang of it, you're invaluable to any and all quests.

[FleetingHeart]

What about the option to create wands only for themselves. These would be exceptionally cheap, perhaps limited to certain spells, and would be undroppable. This way they couldn't be sold or anything.

Edit: And could also allow DMs to prevent such absurdities as near infinite fireball spam. Perhaps limit it to single target damage spells.

[Lux Lucis]

*Agrees with the above*

Pretty much all I would have had to say about this has been said by others. Just be careful, and look for that opportunity to really get that useful spell in. Although it isn't really a requirement to play a wizard, it helps a ton if you have good reflexes, and a steady finger upon the mouse and a careful eye upon the screen. :p

[Drakill Tannan]

Take into account the damage is less that a warlock's attack. Not at fist level, but instead of adding 1d6 damage every 2 levels it adds only 1.

Level 5 wizard 1-6+3 = 6 average 8 max
Level 5 Warlock 3-18 = 9 average 18 max

Level 9 wizard 1-6+5 = 8 average 11 max
Level 9 Warlock 5-30 = 15 average 30 max

I could be wrong though, correct me if i am. Also take into account it's a bolt attack, may miss, it's not insta-hit as the elderich ray would.

What about the option to create wands only for themselves. These would be exceptionally cheap, perhaps limited to certain spells, and would be undroppable. This way they couldn't be sold or anything.

Edit: And could also allow DMs to prevent such absurdities as near infinite fireball spam. Perhaps limit it to single target damage spells.

I like this. Wands of magic missiles mosly, maybe allowing them to vary in between 2-4 missiles with different prices. If they are created in the user's inventory but can't be droppped then they can't be traded and only used by the crafter,

I support that.

EDIT: I'd like to add, my intent is to have wizards doing magic, not using crossbows or meleeing, or healing using trinkets wich is what they do as of now.

[Drakill Tannan]

One more thing, please for once ignore PvP.

...And All can take down a level 9 warrior, EASILY.

but are super effective in PVP. Especially 1 on 1 in a ambush. I recall a lvl 10 wizards destroying my entire party of warriors and a priest....

This is not a PvP suggestion. Wizards are godly in PvP, but not in PvM, i think it's easy to tell the thread is aimed towards the wizards/sorcerer's usefullness on quests.

Because this attack is no stronger than a magic missile, it brings no advantage to PvP. Therefore won't affect it. The only reason i dared to post it was this.

Please do not bring PvP arguments to the discussion.

Wizards can be super in combat depending on the situation but id say in scripted quests/Some DM events their effective as buffers.

My point.