Let them be!

[Garem]

I've been pondering how to put this. This is about the best I can do.

First, Caddies, you performed the role of the ravaging, bloodthirsty hunter excellently. You created a great horror that will keep the young children of Ymph fascinated for years.

Second, to every single one of you who regarded Cruloch as little more than a stray dog with rabies, I'm extraordinarily disappointed in you for belittling the awesome. And kudos to the L.L. crew that rallied and hunted Cruloch down without reducing him to a house pet with a pissing problem, but respecting the beast as a fearsome thing to be respected.

Let the villains be villains and let the heroes be heroes. I'm extraordinarily sick of every level four with a fresh pair of dirty chainmail they scavenged acting like Billy Badass, thus reducing the very quality of people who ARE Billy Badass. You're not helping the story or the roleplaying, the things that make this server great.

I understand the mentality of wanting to be the hero/villain. That's fine, and part of the story. But let everyone have a chance to enjoy the limelight. And this absolutely goes to the folks who've been around a long time, so don't be mistaken, as we like to pretend the story must constantly revolve around our PCs because, frankly, we're  generally better players than those newer to the server.

[Thomas_Not_very_wise]

lol?

People all want attention.


But Garem has a point.

[scribjellydonut]

I don't see the point in this post.  If a level four character wants to be part of the action and it's IC for him to want to help those around him, let him run out and get killed in two rounds by a werewolf if he wants to.  It's not as if character levels should influence a PC's IC actions anyhow(Although I know this is an idealization)
 
So you've came to the forums telling the new players not to be glory hogs, but at the same time that seems to be exactly what you're doing.  You're telling others OOC to stand down for the sake of someone else's OOC ego.
 
If I am being overly callous or misunderstood the post because I lack some other information regarding this storyline then I apologize, but that's how I interpreted what you were saying and I found it rather selfish.

[TheImpossibleDream]

Billy bad ass shows he's billy bad ass, many people will try to be like billy bad ass, this is normal, but few people will actually BE billy bad ass. it seems silly to ask people not to try to pose as the people they dream to be one day. They might not be there yet, but they may get there eventually.

Let them act how they please and is ic for their character, if they're bad ass enough their actions will speak for them. As is the case with most villians/heroes in efu:a.

[SixStrings]

I think Garem's point is not that Level Fours cannot help with this. But more along the lines of people being like.Nonchalant.

"Pfft, who cares if they killed a werewolf, it's just a dog. I'm too cool for that anyway."

etc.

[Letsplayforfun]

We do kill werewolves everynight we travel...

But i think the point was: there are some real villains and real heroes, and it takes some time to build suspense/action to the climax of things. Don't rush being a villain or hero, it takes more than winning at PvP each time someone insults your PC.

[Not.Him.Again]

I believe the point of this is more along the lines of something that happened with Vlad died. One of my characters ran into a very low level character that was bragging how he took down Vlad. What happened? When Vlad was at Near Death and being taken to be executed it seems Vlad tried to make a break for it. A very low level character hit Vlad from behind and subdued him (ie one lucky hit). This low level character proceeded to explain to all his friends how he 'rushed Vlad' when 'Vlad was trying to run like a coward'. When called on it and challenged to a duel, the player made an OOC remaker of 'I want to be clear this is only a level three guy'. After the duel where the character was soundly beaten? The character said ok now I am ready to go on a quest and then was right back to bragging how he took down Vlad.

My two cents. If you decidde its IC for you to be a braggart or a moron (ie not being affraid of something like Caddies Werewolf) then very well. But if that would -not- be IC for your character please realize that its not very impressive when you say things like are mentioned above. This is especially true if the death in question happens because of a gank squad response to a sending about pvp somewhere.
- My Two Cents

[Sedarine]

Well said Garem!

[Sinister Seneschal]

Maybe reading comprehension is failing me.

So you don't want people, in character, to brag and act like they're bad ass when they're not? Or is this about bragging OOC?

Clearly you shouldn't act bad ass IC and then try and avoid the IC consequences in an OOC manner but otherwise I fail to see the value of the original post.

[9lives]

[Random_White_Guy]

Niner just became a DM so he could troll the forums without being banned.

[Pup]

9lives yer my hee-ro.

[Garem]

Seneschal, naw, I was applauding the people who did awesome things. Boasting about it is great when you actually do it. I'm referencing the rediculousness of before the final fight when people were getting taken out like flies and that was entirely ignored. The only real fear I've seen IG has been through spells. That's a bit rediculous, considering some of the terrible things out there, isn't it?

When every single PC on the server basically ignored the terrifying nature of Cruloch (insert any of the notable badasses... Kassarack, Dakarai, anyone!) then they're taking something major away from the story. Maybe it's based on the OOC knowledge that it's almost impossible for them to be a certain level because this is a low level server. I'd say it's more likely that people just don't take death seriously because the blood we spill is in numbers and pixels.

As for scrib's reference to my ego, dude, my PC played no part in any of the attacks on Cruloch. If anything, I've been astoundingly insignificant since my return to EfUA.

Amusing reference, 9lives. >.>

Oh, and I'm going to give my opinion about it if I think someone's playing their character in a stupid way that is injurious to the story of EfU:A. I would bitch and moan if everyone made min-maxed half orcs that spoke with the eloquence of a wizard, too. Unless you're implying that everyone is an 8 wisdom lout with no regard for their safety in the face of one of the most efficient killers I've had the experience of watching, then yea, I guess I'm wrong.

[Ommadawn]

While I agree with some points you make Garem, it still sounds like you're trying to tell people how to play their characters, and that's a no-no. There are many times I might get annoyed (or worse) with play I see in game, but we all have to remember it's a game for all of us, not just the rocking out players. We're all entitled to play our characters how we want to (and if we get smacked down for it then so be it.  :p )

[Raposa_Fox]

Well, myself as a new player felt like you are trying to tell me and other new players to recognize their places and play quiet, and let the awesome more experienced players to do all the cool stuff and get all the attention, being the protagonists and antagonists of the server. If that is what you are trying to say here, well, sorry dude, I don't think most people play to make an unoticed character at all, as Thomas said, everyone wants attention, nothing you can do about it.