Mages staffs for small races

mjones3 · May 24, 2009, 04:59:59 AM

While playing yet another Halfling Wizard I noticed that most of the wizards stave's I have seen are the typical quarter staff. This makes playing a Halfing/Gnome Wizard at a slight disadvantage to a larger race. I do know there are a few for the wee folk out there but I would suggest maybe making them just ever so slightly more common.

VanillaPudding · May 24, 2009, 05:05:24 AM

There are daggers and a couple of other items out there to substitute for a staff and I believe are very similar mechanically, excluding more special stave's.

Egon the Monkey · May 25, 2009, 08:47:45 AM

You're at no disadvantage, and Small races are likely the reason the common +1 L1 slot daggers aren't staves or clubs. If you want something staff-like, try a club.

The most useful wizard weapons are those daggers with extra slots, other than DM loot. The staves just have small skill bonuses and charges.

Mort · May 25, 2009, 02:34:06 PM

And wizards look so wizard'ly with daggers in their hands.

Listen in Silence · May 25, 2009, 04:22:17 PM

They also look wizardly with fish in their hands while wearing turqoise loincloths and turbans.

Porkolt · May 25, 2009, 04:24:28 PM

Or robes.

OH WAIT

TBH, I've yet to encounter a quarterstaff I'd like to carry around as a wizard, as opposed to the many clubs and daggers.

Egon the Monkey · May 26, 2009, 10:47:03 AM

Hehe. Ahmed *hates* looking wizardly. To him, "robe" is a four letter word. More than usual XD.

But yeah, those Wizard's Clubs are good and some of the thinner skins look suitably stafflike on a Small PC. Perhaps if we could get "Sawed off Wizard's Staff" clubs with similar stats to some of those staves IG currently?

Listen in Silence · May 26, 2009, 03:51:22 PM

[Staff merchant saws wizard's staff in half, selling each half to a halfling at the price of a whole staff.]

Gippy · May 26, 2009, 07:30:42 PM

I loath halfling wizards, but detested gnome wizards, and do not really think they need any aditional bonuses past the blatently obvious they already get as a small race. Maybe wizard staves are common for humans/elves because those are the common wizarding races? Gnomish illusionists hardly count as skilled wizards anyways. <_>

putrid_plum · May 27, 2009, 12:05:06 AM

pfft gnomish illusionist are the true power in the multiverse

Egon the Monkey · May 27, 2009, 10:31:29 AM

Quote from: Gippy;127841Gnomish illusionists hardly count as skilled wizards anyways. <_>

I see the PhK sights heading in your PC's direction to disprove that one XD.

Besides, this mostly seems a "looks" thing. TBH, it would be nice to see rare staves that give 2 L1 spellslots so that wizards wanting a staff can get a good one. With similar powerful Gnome and halfling only clubs so that medium race PCs can't dual wield them. Not really a huge problem, but then it would be cool to see Sugriam selling an expensive Gnome Only club with 1/day Colorspray or something.

Daemonic Daz · May 27, 2009, 12:26:27 PM

William Bell will be turning in his sleep/grave right now

mjones3 · May 27, 2009, 04:45:26 PM

Meh I was thinking more so of just anything on them so I can have something other than this plain old stick I bought in the beginers shop.

Relinquish · May 27, 2009, 06:42:06 PM

The "mage staffs" can be used by halflings/gnomes but they are just 2 handed.

Dr Dragon · May 27, 2009, 11:57:38 PM

Lame TN gnomeish illusionists who use PHK and avoid PFE and PFG.