Scrying

[Jayde Moon]

I think a tool to represent getting something from the character would be a fun way of altering the save, like in PnP.  Necessary, no, but potentially fun.

I do think that everyone affected by the scry should either have some part in saving against the scry or at least be able to individually determine that someone is scrying on them.

Being able to pick one individual and hear 2, 5, 10 or more without any of the others having a chance to stop/detect the scry seems a little off-balance to me.

All of this assumes that the current system does not already allow for it.

[Luke Danger]

Introduce methods to strike back at scryers if detected, if nothing else, for spellcasters. IE, they can pay a spell slot to dish damage back; something that could potentially wound a mage seriously, using the scrying link as a target.

I'm thinking of HOTU, where Halaster blammed someone who tried to scry on him in backstory... that may help make scrying less positive. But while a save per round may be absurd, a save every % of the duration? A save by everyone in the area?

[Spiffy Has]

Why not require the person scrying to own an item that was once in the possession of that individual PC? I know there are tag scripts that prevent twinking in this fashion.

[Udenbur]

Udenbur, how do you know this is the case? My diviner never once scryed on the drow PCs, since she never had direct knowledge of them beyond knowing there were drow about, which is certainly not enough to chose them as a target for the spell.

I agree this is bad form to scry like that, but I'm not so certain it's nearly as common a thing as is represented.

I wasn't talking about you, Cap. Nor do I mean to offend anyone, it's just to illustrate a point.

[Lenthis]

Would still like to see some more anti-Scrying ideas/solutions.
Isn't necromacy! But a legitamat concern that scury could use some debuffs, Perhaps the mists could cloud your watching?

[Porkolt]

There is currently a very easily obtainable item with a single-use ward spell in the module.

[Lenthis]

Also it's from a low level quest and none magic oriented chars are slightly shafted when dealing with it.

[Porkolt]

Not really.

[Relinquish]

Also it's from a low level quest and none magic oriented chars are slightly shafted when dealing with it.

Non-magic characters are slightly shafted in nearly any situation anyway?