Nightriser Barracks Quest

[MisterPAIN]

Mr Pain, no offense, but i didn't get your meaning. Say again?

When there is an attempt to enforce a OOC/IC 1 man loot everything, in the presence of opposition it seems to be an equal attempt to act in favor of it sometimes a bit pushing characters over the edge of being "living and breathing" and into the characters themselves having a 1 man loot morality.  It just seems a little weird that characters zapped throughout Faerun seem to have the same mannerisms and lose their shit over the same thing, even if the goods are all collected (breaking up the 1 man loot thing).

[Meldread]

I really think some people here are letting OOC reasoning and decisions impact their IC reasoning and decisions.  I have no problem with someone stealing loot, especially if they are the stealing type.  Everyone has IC motivation to steal:  You're desperately working to survive.  If you steal that potion of cure serious wounds and barkskin that could mean the difference between life and death.  A fighter might reason:  "Hey I used a blur potion battling these Nightrisers and I looted three blur potions.  I'm going to keep one to replace the one I used, and leave the rest."  A wizard might secretly keep some arcane scrolls, a rogue might keep some lock picks, a good aligned cleric might keep that evil artifact to destroy.

I have no problem with any of that, and I don't have a problem with those whose characters steal out of greed.  There are plenty of reasons to be greedy.

People getting OOCly angry over it seem a bit silly.  There is no notion of "fair" and there is no written rule on how spoils should be divided.  The person you ask too loot could simply run away with it all!

I handle all and any of those above events accordingly to how my character would deal with them.  If that menacing Barbarian who I know could rip my head off says he's taking -all- the potions, my character might cowardly allow it even if he wanted one.  If the thief obviously skims some gold off the top, my character might decide to make him eat steel and rob him of -all- of his gold.

I don't have a problem with any of this, and I don't know why anyone else would either.

[Zelknolf]

I don't have a problem with any of this, and I don't know why anyone else would either.

Unfortunately, not everyone has a clear distinction mentally/emotionally between IC and OOC -- a character being screwed over is griefing to them, as opposed to the hook for a playable rivalry.


That said, the angry posts in this thread are more about people abusing the game engine to get loot than people whose characters are greedy and do things like skim gold before the split, palm a half pound item, stuff a gem into a boot before making the ceremonial EfU "lewt for splitting" pile. This is more of rushing into a room, picking up 2 swords, 10 potions, and some halfplate while everyone else is out of range for the OnAquired script to inform, and giving no clues in emotes or whatnot about the additional 60 lbs. of gear being toted about.

[Egon the Monkey]

I don't see anything wrong with the popularity of having one person loot everything.
In character thoughts:
It's easier to keep one person honest by watching them than six.
If you suggest a Paladin or other honest type, they won't loot anything.
If you suggest a buffbot wizard, then you can beat them down if they try and run with the lot of it. Also they won't be in combat, so it doesn't distract someone who needs to stay alert.
It's a convention that developed among the adventuring population for that sort of reasoning.

[pyth]

It's not the stealing of a potion that some people take issue with. It's when someone maxes out the skills that relate to steal mode, blatantly walks up to chest after chest and drains them dry right in front of 10 people, and say "Nope, another empty. Not much loot here huh guys?"

Shit, I've seen people stealth, and simply walk from chest to chest in the boss area, you can see the freaking lids open and close. When I tried to call that particular person I was called a meta-gamer, as said person was stealthed!

#1 reason why I won't quest with certain people. IC or not, if I'm not going to enjoy playing with them, I won't.

[Halfbrood]

I can't honestly believe that people max out the "thief mode" skills, simply so they can rob their companions blind... If people do this, I am disgusted. >:|

[Garem]

Halfbrood does it! Nobody quest with him! Boycott Halfbrood and his secret accounts!