Do your PCs use Staves in combat?

[Drakill Tannan]

Using any weapon efectively is hard. But in NWN, the quarterstaff is one of the simplest. I'm aware there are some staves with both feats, but only -some-, i think ALL staves should have both feats except for the ones not meant to fight with.

[AKMatt]

Leave them be, please.  I like that you can now flail really ineffectually as a wizard with a staff.

[Be Prepared!]

I think the wording of your question is ridiculously skewed!

[Egon the Monkey]

Yeah, probably. But I can't edit it and wanted more choices than yes or no. I didn't consider anyone might like the change but not use a staff, which isn't exactly putting your money where your mouth is.

I like that you can now flail really ineffectually as a wizard/sorcerer/rogue/bard/fighter/barbarian/cleric/druid/paladin with a staff.

There, I fixed it for you ;). Remember adventuring Wizards are meant to be proficient in their weapons, as in trained. Although their AB sucks, they have more training than a commoner who at best can know how to use one weapon effectively.

The trouble is it breaks the staff for anyone without 15 Dex and 2 feats, or a Ranger level. This makes the only wizard about who might effectively use a wizard-only staff... Oh. My one. Also, numerous deities have a Staff as a favoured weapon, and that gimps their clerics in using it, unless you use a spear and say "It's a STAFF with a nail on the top OK?"

If you want to flail ineffectually, take 10 STR on your wizard. Or Expertise. Gimp builds should be optional, not inevitable.

@Dustiferous:
The spear's a brilliant weapon on EFU:A. There are plenty of +1 damage ones, makign it both lightweight and fairly high damage, as well as good crits for a Simple weapon. I've used them on a lot of PCs for that reason.

[TheImpossibleDream]

You are totally forced to use a quarterstaff in so many circumstances. So unfair.

[The Crimson Magician]

Giant sticks now take skill to use wheeh.

I do support adding free feats of dual-wielding onto the staffs, though. It'd help quite a bit. It also makes sense, seeing as you aren't really dual-wielding 2 weapons (double weapons should be an exception I guess), rather attacking with the fore of your weapon then I guess the caboose?

[Equinox]

It would be cool if -all- quaterstaves came with ambidex and twowep. because then they are actually a viable weapon for a 2ndary BAB class as they will never get imp two wep anyway.

Though tbh I did prefer them the old way, despite the obvious hardwork put in to change them, if they were reverted they'd likely be used more often.

[Ebok]

I miss the old staves.

[TheImpossibleDream]

It would be cool if -all- quaterstaves came with ambidex and twowep. because then they are actually a viable weapon for a 2ndary BAB class as they will never get imp two wep anyway.

Though tbh I did prefer them the old way, despite the obvious hardwork put in to change them, if they were reverted they'd likely be used more often.

Secondary BAB classes will never be "viable" from a mechanical stand point to dual wield pre epic levels and even then you only dual wield because you want 2 extra chances to roll 20 or are making use of hide in plain sight/stealth flat footing.

In the many many years I've played I've seen 3 people use a stave on a main character that lasted more than 2 weeks (in otherwords that was not a throwaway) who were not wizards. Thats not even 1 a year. I don't really think changing it back will change things much!

[VanillaPudding]

I'd rather it were just reverted unless a DM wants to do the alternate thing and start using the magic staff template for Wizard items, powerful or not, since they're one handed technically.

[n00m]

back in my day we had a plain old stick and we liked it.