Stacking Amunition.

Started by SilentSouth, November 05, 2010, 09:29:27 AM

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Ghost

If I had to fire 400 arrows instead of 800 that's still 40 lbs. of inventory weight. Adding weight to arrows will make bows pretty much unusable because archers (who are dex based afterall) won't have the strength to carry their own weapons.

This isn't PnP where you fight a dozen or two critters in the course of an adventure, this is NWN where you fight enemies in the hundreds at times. This means you need a lot more ammunition to get through to the end. It's a computer game, and as such it tends to stretch the bounds of credulity more due to the medium.

newoptimum

Quote from: Nightshadow;208194At the moment, archery is weak, that's why you have to fire 800 arrows to get through something.

That's simply not true.  As someone playing an archer PC right now, I assure you that melee fighters make just as many attacks (if not more, considering AoOs) as I do over the course of a quest.  The difference is simply that I need ammunition while they don't.  The amount of arrows spent is not an indication of how weak or strong archery is, it's just an indication of the length of the quest.

Ghost is absolutely right; archer characters often don't have a ton of strength anyway, and I've topped out at using nearly 900 bolts on a long, DM-spiced quest before.  At .1 pounds per, and considering the gear I was already carrying, I would have been reduced to ineffectiveness long before the quest was even halfway over.

Maybe having a thousand arrows on you is "immersion breaking" - I don't know, it's certainly never bothered me.  But I'd rather sacrifice a little bit of realism than be crippled on anything but the most cursory adventure.  "Weightless arrows" is a concession made to the fact that this is a computer game, and - again, as Ghost said - PCs face far, far more enemies in a NWN quest than you would in PnP.

SilentSouth

Ok well i think i have a solution to this, allow arrows to stack up to 500 or so, and each stack of 500 arrows weighs 15-20lbs as a full stack. but anything under a stack of 500 weighs nothing.

I'm not sure if this can be done but this would give the best of both worlds.

The Crimson Magician

Not a great idea, imo.

tspawn35

I believe that bolts and arrows shouldn't weigh a thing because of the fact that you already have to carry something that goes away.. This also isn't the same as the actual tabletop where you only attack a small number of monsters at a time. you fight a ton of monsters. My only grip i have about poition (and maybe i am blind) is when I have like a stack of 3 blurs and then i find another stack of like 5 blurs in my pack. I have no way of merging them or atleast i haven't figured it out yet

Bearic

Blur potions are easy to manage, one uses them - lots. ^_^

tspawn35

lol I know blurs shouldn't last that long.. I was mainly stating that i know how to split stacks but i do not know how to merge them back together.. which is probably me being blind...

Bearic

Nah, potions from different quests don't stack; it's helpful when you want to spilt potions between the group, so you don't mix up what you've collected, and what you had before hand.

DnDPnPPlayer

What about a quiver that could be bought or found that would allow both "autoload" and grouping.  Either an item found, earned, or bought.  I always spent time in PnP seeking "Elehonna's Quiver" (or whatever it was called)... allowed the user basically a bag of holding for arrows... which ever arrow they wanted would be ready.... would be cool to have a bow that could be "loaded" with arrows, then fire away.  (I'm also surprised at how quickly arrows get used here, not sure if it's a NwN thing or a server thing).