Silver/Cold Iron

Started by Moonlighter, April 03, 2020, 10:12:45 AM

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Moonlighter

Self-serving, I guess, given my concept but this has bugged me for a while.

Most silver/cold iron items in the game are currently balanced with damage penalties and then bonus damage and AB against their respective favored types. But, they're only as effective as a normal weapon at that point, except they pierce DR. So a normal weapon that has skills or bonus damage with magic weapon on it is still better. It'd be cool if they represented more of a threat or nuclear option against those types. Not sure how to implement that beyond retuning items, maybe?

But seems like it'd be a good idea to me. They're reasonably rare, anyway, outside of silver daggers.

Mushroom Mushroom

It'd be wonderful if beamdog could offer IP_CONSTANTS to the material properties of silver/iron etc... so we could script damage bonuses toward shapechangers and outsiders for them.

Maybe I'll put it on the beamdog website as a wishlist item.

Trevor White

The obvious one would be +2 AB vs X on more of them, so they outperform Magic Weapon. In addition, PC werecreatures have 10/+1 and 5/+2 DR, which means the normal silver knives are ironically ineffective, as their 1d4 damage bounces off that secondary DR.  For PCs or presumably bosses it is indeed better to stick magic weapon on a longsword that has enough base damage to get through the secondary DR. It's also not difficult to get daggers with +1 elemental of some sort full stop.  I like the idea that these things are holdout knives that are useless vs most stuff but a genuine threat to whatever type of thing they are made to kill. They don't need to be outrageously lethal to the given thing, they just need to be good enough to be worth drawing instead of just slapping a MW trinket on your more powerful weapon of choice.

All that said, I have a knife on my PC that has +1 vs Outsider and Elemental, which has saved me a fair number of MW charges when exploring rifts without a caster.
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