New Player Trying to get Haks to Work.

[Thoronrhaw]

So I've been doing what I can to do this install manually on this old computer still running XP I have, since I can't get the launcher program to work.
Unfortunately, I don't seem to have the haks correctly installed.
I went and manually installed the files from http://www.efupw.com/forums/forum/information/player-compendium/666313-all-recent-efu-haks-and-overrides
into my NWN folder.
I have the spell icons, but not names or descriptions for the new spells (and still old descriptions for the old ones which I'm unsure if are supposed to change).
I also have the updated skins on the game.

However, when I go to the starting equipment menu and select the hak items store, my game crashes.
Likewise, when someone else (by chance) was going through and did the same for their character, I crashed at that point as well.
I immediately re-logged and crashed before completely loading the area, but was able to load the area after re-re-logging and found the other character to have left the area already.

Tried this with a 2nd character and found the same problem.


Possibly unrelated things but listing for completeness:
Seem to have lost 25gp before buying any items.
Have a character unable to get to level 2 as they have "too many feats"
I keep getting 40xp chunks as a character advancement bonus.
Many non-vanilla heads are raised significantly above the neck during character customization.


I've tried what I can collecting information from around these forums, but I have to admit I'm at a loss on what to do.

[zDark Shadowz]

The too many feats issue sounds like you could be running a class override file that's replacing your feats you shouldn't have on this server.

You may need to set aside or delete ALL existing haks & overrides (except latest CEP) from previous servers you've played due to conflicts. I know I had to remove my Amia haks before I could enter specific areas and I also had suffered from the same crashes you are describing from the hak store.

Make sure everything is as clean as possible.

The character advancement bonus is normal.

To get the spells to work you need the .tlk file for it in your main NWN folder rather than the tlk folder. All the other files to be downloaded go into their respective subfolders (hak/override/tlk etc)

Hope this helps.

[Thoronrhaw]

Cleared all appropriate NWN folders, reran 1.69 update, overwrote the dialogue.tlk in my NWN directory, reinstalled cep 2.60 & 2.61, then the compiled hack & override folders from http://www.efupw.com/forums/forum/information/player-compendium/666313-all-recent-efu-haks-and-overrides (though not the reforged weapons thing at the bottom)

New spells are displaying with descriptions (old ones are showing old descriptions, but unsure if those are supposed to change), so that's better.
Still have a character unable to pass level 2 (though not the character I intend to take out of the starting area and play, so of little importance)

Still crashing at hak equipment store, however, sadly.

[Golgo13]

This will be a bit of a plodding method, but you could try to have a fresh new install in another folder and copy the EfU haks + overrides there and run NWN from that copy folder, without all the additional things (CEP + other haks). This will effectively have two installations of the game, but it might work.

[Thoronrhaw]

EFU doesn't use the CEP?

[Tala]

EfU doesn't use CEP, and I'm clueless what CEP contains but it may collide with EfU's haks.

No need for two installed copies of NWN. Make a folder of EfU's haks, and a hak folder the rest of your things. When playing EfU use the EfU's haks.
Not sure the same is needed for the overrides, but it can't hurt to have.

What is the class of the PC you made? Did you try other classes or races? I know some people arrive with haks or overrides or whatnot that have rangers with a tumble as class skill, and it's not like that on EfU.

[Thoronrhaw]

I've made a rogue (to enable haks, which is the one that has trouble leveling) and a wizard (who I'm actually trying to play.
Both are human.

Other haks/overrides shouldn't be the problem (unless the cep is the issue) as I've deleted all of those from the install I'm trying to play from (I already made a copy of my install before it was mentioned tbh).

Judging by when I'm crashing, it seems like item-related haks are the problem rather than character-related ones.

The leveling issue may have been caused by conflicting content from other servers much like what you describe Tala (I may have gotten weapon finesse for free) as I made that before I cleared the rest of that out but it is only 1 character and not the one I'm trying to play, so isn't really an issue (my wizard leveled just fine).

I think I'm going to do a clean install just to be thorough, but I don't expect that to solve it.
Is it possible there are haks or updates of haks that aren't in Demure's post that I need to play? (such as the reforged weapons stuff posted later in that thread)

[Tala]

When you have finished installing haks, you must type "/c haks on" in-game with a character and then relog to make it so you will see hak content

Just making sure. You were saying you made a PC to enable haks. Are you positive you typed into the chat "/c haks on", then relogged?

[Thoronrhaw]

Just making sure. You were saying you made a PC to enable haks. Are you positive you typed into the chat "/c haks on", then relogged?

Yes, I was planning to make a wizard, so, since I wasn't sure if not having the haks on would interfere with that, I made a rogue character, typed in "/c haks on", saw the confirmation, logged out, logged in, and made a wizard.

[Skovox Blitzer]

I suggest emptying your override and hak files, then letting the loader take over.  I also struggled until I cleared my files manually.  It seems if you just re-install all the old files just come back.  May not be that for most, but it was for me.  You have to manually remove other haks/overrides I bet.
 

[Skovox Blitzer]

For instance, I erased all the files in both the override and the hak folders and then I let the loader go to work.

[Thoronrhaw]

I suggest emptying your override and hak files, then letting the loader take over. I also struggled until I cleared my files manually. It seems if you just re-install all the old files just come back. May not be that for most, but it was for me. You have to manually remove other haks/overrides I bet.

I already manually cleared both those folders (and a couple more), but can't use the loader as the current version isn't compatible with my old-ass computer.
I only just now tracked down the last install CD (it's been well over a decade since I used the core install disks), so I may try for a fresh install and manually updating everything tomorrow, but too tired to go through it tonight.

Speaking of the updater though, what are the most recent "last modified" dates on the files it installs?
I'm getting 3/13/16 as the most recent file for manual install and I'm not sure if that's right.

[Pentaxius]

Here is a screenshot of my hak directory, hope it helps! And welcome.

[Thoronrhaw]

In order I, loaded NWN, loaded SoU, loaded HotU, updated to 1.69, ran game (loaded up a module to test as well), copied in efu files from Demure's post, tried to run again but crashed (right before intro movies, whether coming in from the autoplay menu or from nwnmain.exe), renamed old dialogue.tlk and cut and pasted efu dialogue.tlk into main NWN folder but got same crash.

Now I have even more questions than before as I'm working with a clean install and getting more issues than I was before.
That's the opposite of how that should work. O.o?

Starting to think it makes more sense to wait for my new harddrive and get a linux boot running like I planned to (not that that isn't a significant task in itself, especially since it'll be my first linux box) and work with that but that also may just be sleepy frustration.

Still, thank you everyone so far.


oh, and as an aside, I do see some differences with the hak files there (capitalization of the first, different dates, and one extra in my list of hak files)

[Thoronrhaw]

In order I, loaded NWN, loaded SoU, loaded HotU, updated to 1.69, ran game (loaded up a module to test as well), copied in efu files from Demure's post, tried to run again but crashed (right before intro movies, whether coming in from the autoplay menu or from nwnmain.exe), renamed old dialogue.tlk and cut and pasted efu dialogue.tlk into main NWN folder but got same crash.

Now I have even more questions than before as I'm working with a clean install and getting more issues than I was before.
That's the opposite of how that should work. O.o?

Starting to think it makes more sense to wait for my new harddrive and get a linux boot running like I planned to (not that that isn't a significant task in itself, especially since it'll be my first linux box) and work with that but that also may just be sleepy frustration.

Still, thank you everyone so far.


oh, and as an aside, I do see some differences with the hak files there (capitalization of the first, different dates, and one extra in my list of hak files)
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