EFUSS: Climb

[KRUNTO]

Though I have not used the current climbing system implemented much, I can say that there is definitely a reason for this; it is generally impossible to get an entire party through any climbing check without a massive headache.

From what I have seen, the ability to climb is very vaguely involved with either your strength score, or your tumble and acrobatics ability, which makes sense, BUT-

For numerous reasons, I think that climbing should be its own separate skill, or part of a 'grouping' of abilities condensed into one EFUSS skill. Acrobatics itself, and the leaping, jumping, spinning balance and whatnot that goes into it, is a very specific skill set, one which I think is a bit obscure to warrant having it reign over climbing for all non-tumblers.

I do not think it would be unreasonable to have an EFUSS skill revolving around general athleticism in relation to running, jumping, climbing and physical awareness which would be common to many soldiers and adventurers.

More than this, if you are properly equipped, it is entirely possible to traverse and climb difficult terrain, and even sheer cliffs, if you possess the right climbing gear, even if you are heavily laden with equipment.

In real life, I have experienced this during tree climbing with large saws, equipped with ropes and boot-spikes and in general wall climbing and sport climbing. While your flexibility and dexterity can indeed be tested, I would definitely say climbing is more of a concentrated effort of muscular endurance and will.

For a more 'EfU Friendly' example, I'd point to the dwarves mining deep within the mountain at the beginning of the movie The Hobbit. They are heavily equipped dwarves carrying picks and hammers, hanging deep down into the mines, hacking away at the stones on the wall, kept safe by their harnesses.

In short: I'd like to see a climbing or athletics EFUSS skill that is more sensible for the adventuresome type of pc to have ranks in than having tons of acrobats hopping around in full plate.

[Disco]

We need mountainclimbing equipment pack, with a higher weight than the normal claw. Also I fully agree that SOME places should be simpler to pass by. Others however.. Meh.

[granny]

I guess that you are having issues or your friends are because they didn't get a single point into tumble. With a single point in tumble it will all be faster, trust me. Although, you must think if it will be IC for your PC to have at least one point in this skill.

[putrid_plum]

Putting 1 point in tumble is an OOC thing, it makes no sense for many character, which is the point of this suggestion I think

[granny]

creating a climber through EFUSS wouldn't make sense for many character either. there are some guys that can climb and there are others that just cannot.

that's why I like more disco's suggestion of making a mountain climbing pack... maybe something that would require at least another player to aid you into climbing up, considering constitution and strength maybe. this would even create another option for team work interactions.

[THEDiamondJ]

Wouldn't be much difference in taking a point in climbing, or taking a point in tumble.