Spideralterations.

[Tarnished_Tulip]

So.... I realised not long ago that the shape abilities i was waiting for, and hoping to see in regards of the spidershape (Web and WebBolt respectively) have been removed. After a chat with a staff member, i was told that "There was no way of making them anything else than unlimited use per day, and that was OP" I may not remember the exact choice of words, but that was what i interpreted the reply as.

Now, I have talked to other players who say this was not at all the case, but in regards of the WebBolt, which admittedly -is- powerful with its no dc touch-attack, was indeed limited albeit with a bug.

The bug was as follows: You could fire the WebBolt, and it would show the appropriate VFXs. But the combatlog would print a message saying something akin to: "You ran out of silk". Which IMO is BRILLIANT!...

Now, please... I would LOVE some oppinions on this.

Was it OPd... Does it deserve to be removed? or can we, please... put it back the way it was?

[Caster13]

Yep. I can attest about the use of web bolt. I can't remember how many uses there was per day, but I would guess roughly once/per level.

Playing as Lycosa, when I tried to use the web bolt ability too many times, the animation would still play but I got a message in my combat log along the lines of "Your abodmen screams in pain as you try to shoot too much webbing."

The actual casting of the web spell was similar but more limited. Maybe like, 3 times per day or so. And when you ran out, the icon would be greyed out like any other spell that's been used up.

[Howlando]

The problem with the web bolt is that it was a no save entangle.

The web spell itself could probably be added back, not sure why that was removed.

The Spider Form is still good.

[Egon the Monkey]

Could the bolt be replaced by a 3/day Tanglefoot bag ability perhaps?

[Mort]

Or we could probably add a save to the web bolt.

[Tarnished_Tulip]

Or we could probably add a save to the web bolt.

This.... Thank you, Mort... Now, dears... let us put the webs back, and add saves to the bolts we know are not unlimited.. And the problem is indeed fixed :)

[TakenByVisions]

I could have sworn it was a ranged touch attack prior, but perhaps I am wrong. It was definitely not unlimited either, as stated already.

[BrittanyPanthas]

Wouldn't seem OP for it to be a ranged touch attack, which if it hits, the PC makes a DC 14 reflex save to avoid entangle.  Thus two checks.

But even without these, the spider form is still incredibly powerful due to its high DC poison.

[Drakill Tannan]

I am pretty sure it was a touch attack.

[Kinslayer988]

Spider form is fun to have around.
Especially for Half/full drow druids.

[Keeper of the White Wyrm]

Wouldn't seem OP for it to be a ranged touch attack, which if it hits, the PC makes a DC 14 reflex save to avoid entangle.  Thus two checks.

But even without these, the spider form is still incredibly powerful due to its high DC poison.

NC edited the shape to reduce the poison save I do believe.