PVP guidlines and rules

[TeufelHunden]

I generally find having rivals and enemies to be fun. If your idea is to kill every pc you fight maybe you shouldn't engage in pvp or nefarious activity because unwarranted killing breeds hard feelings. The I don't wanna have enemies so I'm gunna fd everyone attitude is very frowned upon by everyone. If your enemies live the encounter they will be your personal potion resupplier if they keep attacking you- so make them regret attacking you by robbing them

[Juzza]

The most important thing to remember is, there is another person behind the PCs, consider how much time and effort they have put into their character, they may have needed to write an application and they have sused out a background and a character, they've also put hours of play time into that character.

I think some players, you being one of them General-shadow should read this part of the rules section, perhaps several times.

- Is it best to subdual, to subdual-loot, or to FD (full damage) kill?
Has the character (and player) had opportunities to avoid being FD'ed if they've lost? Is the rivalry or conflict sufficient cause that you think looting or FD'ing is justified? If the situation was reversed, and you were playing your character's opponent, would you feel the same way? Has the story progressed to a point where a FD death would be appropriate? Please note: often the answer is yes, sometimes in EFUA it's just time for FD time.

[Kinslayer988]

rivalry is the thing these days. Betrayal rules as well.

[Dr Dragon]

When going into PVP FD should be a last resort and the last thing on your mind. If your character is like an actual assasain then it actually makes sense to be prepared for FD in every fight.

[Random_White_Guy]

The most important thing I can say is this: DMs notice.

They notice hard and fast who FDs on a whim, who FDs on judgement calls, and who rarely FDs to keep the story alive. There are times where FDing is the only thing that makes sense. Sending someone away would just be foolish.

The thing is sending someone away is the most proactive thing you can do on EFU. Sure, FDing someone allows you their fat loot and more, but if you send someone away they're gonna round up a posse and try to hunt you down.

That makes you proactive, that makes the server more lively, even if it more likely gets you killed than not. My best advice on the matter is this, as witnessed once by a great PvP display- If you down seven PCs, and most of them are emoting how beaten and hurt they are, maybe a few swearing revenge, or what have you, that's cool.

If there's one PC who just won't stop, refuses to acknowledge defeat, and spends his entire time subdued monologing about how fucked you are, how dead you are once he comes back, how the world will know forever how foolish you were for allowing him to live after the Stygians get ahold of you-

Sure it's always fun to laugh and go "Bring it on" and walk off with some gear, which some PCs do in leaving everyone alive.

The moral of the story is try to be humble if you're humbled. Some PCs see those "OH MAN YOU SO DEAD" and go "Well. He's gonna come back and kill me. Can't have that loose end" [Dude is FD'd]

Other times ti's perfectly IC to give one of those rants so long as you know you'll likely die from it. A fanatical cleric going "My god will see you dead blah blah blah blah blah" is cool and good RP and expected, but also a good ending to a PC.

[The Old Hack]

There are times where FDing is the only thing that makes sense. Sending someone away would just be foolish.

Example: If you have just downed someone claiming to be the Ultimate Herald of Ultimate H'balaness, checked her/his bag and found 11 of 12 numbered stones, do you then think it is really that good an idea to let the guy live and let him keep his loot? Do you confiscate the stones and let the guy off with a caution? Or do you kill him and take the stones with the intent of destroying them, or even for your own purposes? Player characters might do all of the above, depending on their background and character. But if you are, say, an Order character, a Stygian or a paladin, suddenly an FD becomes not only logical but very tempting.

Due to being a soft touch, I personally do not like to FD -- please note that this is NOT like Henry Harrison who was an aggressive PvPer with the twist that he never killed people, it is just me being a sissy. Even so I have done it. The star example was me catching a guy who only the day before had tried to invis gank me while I was sitting down without buffs in the Wastrel. After boasting about my inevitable death which I had brought down on myself, the guy went down like a ton of bricks during a subsequent fight in the Wardens. Was I going to let him walk away after that? No. The next invis gank he tried might work, so I FDed him.

The thing is sending someone away is the most proactive thing you can do on EFU. Sure, FDing someone allows you their fat loot and more, but if you send someone away they're gonna round up a posse and try to hunt you down.

Actually, that doesn't even necessarily have to happen. One time Karrin won a three to one PvP by spamming PhKs at her attackers and then she subsequently explained to them that she had nothing with them, they had been within rights to chase her out of the Docks but that by pursuing her into the Wardens she'd felt forced to counterattack. She would let them go this time because she kinda felt the fight was her fault, but suggested they might want to play it a bit cooler because her patience wasn't endless.

Result: all three characters hated Karrin but none of them tried actively to hunt her. Sure, they spread rumours about her and one of them wrote wicked satire about her, but that was part of the game and added flavour to events. Of course someday they would probably have tried for revenge, but at least they let events wait on it, they didn't gather a posse.

The moral of the story is try to be humble if you're humbled.

Doubled and redoubled. At least if you want to live. Also, it is kind of annoying RP-wise when someone who just lost insists on acting like they won. Try to look at it like this: you just had the shit kicked out of you and it HURTS. Would you in RL really want to tempt more pain? (Some would, and do. They very often get what they try for. Just remember, your character might be smarter than that.)