Make Templar Mail Non-Plot

Started by Egon the Monkey, November 16, 2008, 11:05:59 AM

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Egon the Monkey

Templar Mail is nice stuff, and relatively common. But, it's marked as plot and is therefore undyable. This leads to the same situation as "everyone has Corsair Banded" but worse, as you can't just slap some cheap leather dye on to differentiate yourself.

Could all new Templar Mails be non-plot so that we can dye them?

p00d33m

I wonder what is really behind this question?
 
...when it is going to happen? please ... say when!

Luke Danger

I dunno, is silver dyable?

Hang on, we can dye metal plates, is should be if I recall my materials right.

ExileStrife

Having the ability to dye a particular armor and distinguish yourself is definitely a perk tied to that item, not a trivial request.  The particular look of the armor may also be simply just an aspect of that item itself that isn't to be altered IC'ly on a whim (the "Azure Armor" was always the piece we used to describe this situation).  You're asking for this armor to be made better than it already is and I don't know if the designer had that in mind.

This of course opens up the general question:  Do we impose constraints on the world or let everybody have their fun?  *sigh*

Egon the Monkey

I get that, and it makes sense that certain items should be plot. For example the Ghoul Chain's undyability helps paint a nice big I AM EVIL AND SUMMON THE DEAD sign on you (for any PC that recognises the armor) when combined with the use restriction. And it's uncommonly used enough that it's not an issue.

But, Templar Mail is good, common armor. So's Corsair Banded, Orc Halfplate, Jergali Cuirass etc, but they are dyable.

The point isn't "I want my PCs armor to match my PCs hat" it's that when you have an item that's generally useful, it gets used by general builds, you see a lot of it around and unless it's dyable, it seems odd that half the rangers and barbarians have exactly the same chainmail.