Trackless step feat processing bugs

Started by Helge, February 18, 2011, 10:01:56 AM

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Helge

Looks like there are two bugs with overlapping effects.
Trackless step bonus is removed when equipping armor and transitioning between wilderness areas. Trackless step bonus is substracted  when transitioning from wilderness to non-wilderness areas.

Test 1 setup:

Three areas:
1) Nebezzdos Alleyways (non-wilderness)
2) Main gates (wilderness)
3) Sloped road (wilderness)

PC with everything unequipped with Trackless step feat

Skills when in the area (1):
Hide 15
MS 15

Transitioning to area (2)

Skills when in the area (2) after transition:
Hide 19
MS 19

Transitioning to area (3)

Skills when in the area (3) after transition:
Hide 15
MS 15

Intermediate test result:  Trackless step bonus to Hide/MS is removed on transition between wilderness areas

Transitioning back to area (2)

Skills when in the area (2) after transition:
Hide 15
MS 15

Transitioning back to area (1)

Skills when in the area (1) after transition:
Hide 11
MS 11

Test result: Trackless step bonus to Hide/MS was removed twice

Test 2 setup:

Two areas:
1) Nebezzdos Alleyways (non-wilderness)
2) Main gates (wilderness)

PC with everything unequipped with Trackless step feat

Skills when in the area (1):
Hide 15
MS 15

Transitioning to area (2)

Skills when in the area (2) after transition:
Hide 19
MS 19

Equipping armor without bonuses and penalties (Rogue's Tunic)

Skills when in the area (2) after equipping armor
Hide 15
MS 15

Intermediate test result:  Trackless step bonus to Hide/MS is removed on equipping armor

Transitioning to area (1)

Skills when in the area (1) after transition:
Hide 11
MS 11

Equipping or reequipping armor in the area (1)

Skills when in the area (1) after equipping armor:
Hide 15
MS 15

Test result:  Again Trackless step bonus to Hide/MS was removed twice

Looks like there are two bugs with overlapping effects.

Porkolt

Better list your PC name. My last PC was a ranger and I've never encountered any bug of the sort.

Helge

Alvin Yana (account Helge9210)
Rogue(3)/Ranger(1)

Helge

Also I get -4 Hide/MS when spawing inside Kingsman. Situation is repaired by reequipping an armor.

Yalta

Also the movement speed is buggy. it still gives you the movement speed in urban areas e.g. Kingsmans.

MrGrendel

FWIW, I recall a friend of mine who played a ranger for a while recently saying stealth bonuses with trackless step in particular did funny things all the time. Don't recall the character name, just throwing it out as verification.

Helge

After taking "Sewer dweller" perk leaving the colony via sewers->flooded tunnels->gate area allows to retain trackless step bonus in the wilderness.

EfUA_undercover

The problem with the stealth boni is usually easily solved by reequipping armor. Worked for me so far.

Though the buggy movement speed bonus in urban areas remains. It has been so for years I think, and has been reported before aswell if I am correct.

Helge

QuoteThe problem with the stealth boni is usually easily solved by reequipping armor.

Only when inside non-wilderness area.