Good Aligned DM Faction

[Dr Dragon]

You know what, though, it's really kind of ludicrous but the "good" PCs often just stand around and watch the infernalists, the necromancers and the aberrants do their thing, even going so far as to get violently angry with the PCs who actually stand up to oppose these people.

If people say there's a lack of good on this PW, well it's in a large part their own fault for their characters not taking a stand and instead allowing evil to walk all over them. Good DM factions aren't needed, but PCs willing to take a true stand in the name of good are.

I agree it is kind of sad when my evil Pcs have to tell paladins/priests to holy gods to smite evil. With Isengrim Ortega I was trying t o influence Walton and the Bastion to Obtain Lordship by smiting evil.

[petey512]

You guys have to remember that there's a whole massively DM-supported faction that protects these evil-doers from good-smiters- and fighting against them is a good way to NOT become a lord.

Let's not bring in isolated incidents that could be percieved as accusing others of bad roleplay.

[Capricious]

Fighting evil does not necessarily mean smiting. There's a lot of ways to oppose them that don't involve simply killing them. But running about with obviously evil PCs and helping them achieve their ends isn't exactly opposing them either. I'm sorry if this is a rather controversial statement, but I have seen this kind of thing on multiple occasions (which I have not, nor will I, list).

[Dr Dragon]

You guys have to remember that there's a whole massively DM-supported faction that protects these evil-doers from good-smiters- and fighting against them is a good way to NOT become a lord.

Let's not bring in isolated incidents that could be percieved as accusing others of bad roleplay.

Yes lets not point out the fact some supposed good aligned Pcs are basically doing nothing to oppose necromancers animating undead in their faces. Lets not discuss how evil people are being proactive and chasing their goals while good aligned people arent do ing it as much.

As far as accusing others of bad role play I am. If people are offended by my criticism then prove me wrong and make a good aligned PC to rock out. Ironmantle did it Julian Friar did it  if I were to name every single good aligned proactive PC who rocked out wed be here all day.

[Nightshadow]

Evil tends to be easier and even more exciting, good tends to be harder and less exciting. Rocking out as good is possible, but it is harder (or at least, tends to require more patience). That's just been my experience.

[Wildlings]

Wow did this get like WAAAAAAY off topic.  All that was stated in the OP was that it would be nice to see a place that a Good PC would not feel like they were fighting uphill each step of the way in their own faction.

Now before it starts all over again.

YES, they can join any faction around.
YES, being in a faction does not mean they will "Rock out".
YES, "good" needs to be more proactive than reactive.
YES, the current factions have a "neutral" concept behind them. (Meaning that when they were created they were left somewhat open to any alignment)


All these points have been made.. many times.

Now, with all that said.  

Let's look at what is really out there.

The Son's: Chaotic is what they look for. Good / Evil / Neutral can make a go at it. Since it's inception I can think of only 1 known "good" aligned character in it.

The Stygians : Law is what they look for. More Evil than good in nature.  I can't think of any "good" aligned PC.

The Order: Again Law is what they look for.  Seems most neutral, with some good tossed in.  Main problem with this is the fanatical view they seem to all have.

Conclave : Neutral in all things.  This is the one faction that any and all can fit in.  Though it is limited in who can join.  Mage / Sorcerer then Consort, which can be of any class as long as their ideals work with the Mage / Sorcerer.

Stewards : Neutral in most things.  Again any alignment can fit in.  Though you must be nature focused.

Now I love the Factions we currently have.  It is a good mix of thought and ideals and makes for a lot of potential conflict.  But, that is not to say that with some thought a faction for those of "good" intent could not be added to the mix.

So, that is the end of my .02, I shall let you all have the floor and do my best not to jump in again.

[GoblinSapper]

As often as others complain about how "we're not seeing the whole picture", it astounds me those people turn around and say "good pc's your not fighting evil!" because they don't see it.
 
Goods primary problem is amazing grace. It has too much of it.

[9lives]

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