Plant Overharvesting

[12 Hatch]

I think it's more constructive, then, to come to some kind of a general consensus.  On one hand, non-wilderness folks can't tell when they are going to overharvest or not.  But on the other hand, those who roam the wilderness looking for gardens to ravage are quite aware that they'll do it.

Why not just say, then, that if you are doing large-scale ruining of garden life, you might want to post something mentioning ICly that gardens have been ripped apart and provide some manner of IC clue?

It's just a game, and conflict is always best!  I'd rather be hunted by druids than simply safely chill and harvest peacefully.  I'm fairly sure most players can agree that having enemies is much more entertaining than not having them.

Kabam - problem solved!

[Drakill Tannan]

Actually it is quite possible to Mug and even murder PCS with no PVP skills at all. Hiring assassins, Giving a person spells and demanding a split of the goods mugged. Also I wouldn't be pissed Ive had quite a few chars who were killed simply for a bounty. But then again Im also guilty of doing the same.

People RL seem to find a way to guard land 24/7 So I suggest you find a way IG to pay people enough to take shifts.

That is ridiculous DRD, no one is going to stay in that garden for one hour to see who comes by and harvests form it, no matter how much gold you give him IG because it is boring. Mind you, even if it took only 100 gold to find a willing person, how much would you need to pay for each person so that whatever hours you ask them are actually worth it? Every day.

Time is actually valuable, and i'm talking RL here, you can invest it in something productive, you can invest it in having fun, or you can watch an avatari sit in a digital garden and bore yourself to death.

I think you're being a jerk, and hiding in the "Deal with it IC" excuse to continue what you do. But consider that it is only fun to you, and completly lame and frustrating for other players.

[Dr Dragon]

That is ridiculous DRD, no one is going to stay in that garden for one hour to see who comes by and harvests form it, no matter how much gold you give him IG because it is boring. Mind you, even if it took only 100 gold to find a willing person, how much would you need to pay for each person so that whatever hours you ask them are actually worth it? Every day.

Time is actually valuable, and i'm talking RL here, you can invest it in something productive, you can invest it in having fun, or you can watch an avatari sit in a digital garden and bore yourself to death.

I think you're being a jerk, and hiding in the "Deal with it IC" excuse to continue what you do. But consider that it is only fun to you, and completely lame and frustrating for other players.

Or you can have nice chats with people in your garden discussing/plotting while guarding it at the same time. You  do not need to  sit there waiting for someone to loot it. I see people stand about the Zig chatting all the time or in the Docks you can easily move those places to your garden and defend it from those sick depraved over harvesters.

Also if someone is stealing from your garden feel free to kill them in fact you can transcribe an IG note and then leave it and have it titled "Steal from the garden and you die."

Those are some IG solutions that are fun and as for "Being a jerk" I at least own up to the fact that I over harvest and am proud of it. This is an IG problem to solve IG. Why is it there is an OOC post about an issue that is iG? I don't see any Public notices or people pissed off at Over harvesting. I just see an ooc thread in general notices.

If people are oocly complaining about a problem they cant solve IG then I feel I reserve the right to demand free loot and free property and stuff like Lordship because I simply do not feel like getting it IG.

[Nightshadow]

This, along with many other things in the game, is something we should look in the manner of 'What would I do in this situation?' If you saw a collection of valuable or rare plants out in the wild, and it looked like it was a garden, is it possible that this, as a garden, is located near to someone's home, as most gardens are? If there are no houses around, yet this garden is well tended, perhaps it's the property of a druid or ranger, in which case, what if said ranger or druid is nearby, near their home (or claimed land)? Certainly not at all out of the ordinary. Therefore, what would be the best course of action? These plants may be rare and valuable, to you or someone else, but what if you're caught stealing them? Perhaps it would be best to leave, or maybe you'll take it anyway, such is up to you and you alone.

Personally, I think there are many ways to prevent this, I'll list a few off the top of my head.
-Hide your garden somewhere that is not often travelled.
-If you're a nature dweller, generally stick around the area you have hidden your garden.
-Plant lots of plants, everywhere, and a wide variety of them, this reduces the odds that someone will have to go hunting down your precious garden to get their plants that they themselves are too lazy, incompetent, or unmotivated enough to plant themselves.
-If you're a druid or ranger, AE a cave bear and stick it next to your garden. Cave bears will solve all problems. Period.

I think that all rangers and druids should be able to tell how much a plant can take before it dies, but I also think that Wilderness Survival and/or Farming should come into effect in this, so that other classes can do so as well, if this isn't already in. By the way, I didn't read through a lot of the other posts, so sorry if I posted up anything that someone else already posted up.

[Nuclear Catastrophe]

IC issue

[Staring Death]

I think it's more constructive, then, to come to some kind of a general consensus.  On one hand, non-wilderness folks can't tell when they are going to overharvest or not.  But on the other hand, those who roam the wilderness looking for gardens to ravage are quite aware that they'll do it.

Why not just say, then, that if you are doing large-scale ruining of garden life, you might want to post something mentioning ICly that gardens have been ripped apart and provide some manner of IC clue?

It's just a game, and conflict is always best!  I'd rather be hunted by druids than simply safely chill and harvest peacefully.  I'm fairly sure most players can agree that having enemies is much more entertaining than not having them.

Kabam - problem solved!

If people realized it to make an OOC thread about it... I don't know, perhaps you can realize it IC too?

[derfo]

i think it would be cool if botanist pcs somehow grew persistent giant venus fly traps or other plants that attack trespassers, or something along those lines.