Ghostwise Halflings!

[BrittanyPanthas]

If these were made non-app, then I believe it would be nice for the information on specific tribes were made for all to see, with certain Stargazer tribes still being application only.

[TheWastesAreFrozen]

I honestly don't think you would see more of them outside of small groups now and then. However, where would it stop? It's perfectly feasible by this reasoning that Goblins could be non-app since they have their own town nearby and are currently tolerated.

The main thing I think is to be sure that people understand they aren't protected by laws since they aren't citizens. If that's made clear then I don't really care either way. My whole point was that they -are- different from ghostwise in many ways and making those app only has obviously not done anything for active Stargazer numbers.

[FleetingHeart]

If these were made non-app, then I believe it would be nice for the information on specific tribes were made for all to see, with certain Stargazer tribes still being application only.

Yeah. Like Toad tribe. And Flayers. >.>

[Cerberus]

Personally, and I know this is just my opinion, but I feel basic apps (those that don’t need extra work or scripting by DM’s) should remain but be a bit more lenient to be approved. Somebody showing enough enthusiasm to write the app means that they are willing to try. And if they’re going to be watched anyway then how hard is it to warn them first and kill em off second if they don’t play the PC to par. Perhaps on an ECL basis, a zero ECl should be a cake-walk app, an ECL 1 a bit harder, ECL 2 or 3 difficult and near impossible. Personally, I think the judgment of the DM’s (or admin) is a bit biased based on how they want a PC to be played. If I put in an app saying I want to play a drow that tries his damndest NOT to talk to people and hides a lot and doubt he’ll live past 5th level it would probably be rejected on some silly notion that drow want to reek havoc and get involved. Personally I think most lone drow would tend to avoid mingling… heh, I’,m rambling about drow… Anyway, I guess what I’m trying to say is it should be the player that breathes life into the app PC not the DM’s. If the character fails it fails (kill it, DM’s can do that), if it doesn’t, well then you have a good, well played PC.
 
Were I a DM I would approve MD for a ghostwise Halfling based on this thread alone.

[FleetingHeart]

Personally, and I know this is just my opinion, but I feel basic apps (those that don’t need extra work or scripting by DM’s) should remain but be a bit more lenient to be approved. Somebody showing enough enthusiasm to write the app means that they are willing to try. And if they’re going to be watched anyway then how hard is it to warn them first and kill em off second if they don’t play the PC to par. Perhaps on an ECL basis, a zero ECl should be a cake-walk app, an ECL 1 a bit harder, ECL 2 or 3 difficult and near impossible. Personally, I think the judgment of the DM’s (or admin) is a bit biased based on how they want a PC to be played. If I put in an app saying I want to play a drow that tries his damndest NOT to talk to people and hides a lot and doubt he’ll live past 5th level it would probably be rejected on some silly notion that drow want to reek havoc and get involved. Personally I think most lone drow would tend to avoid mingling… heh, I’,m rambling about drow… Anyway, I guess what I’m trying to say is it should be the player that breathes life into the app PC not the DM’s. If the character fails it fails (kill it, DM’s can do that), if it doesn’t, well then you have a good, well played PC.

Were I a DM I would approve MD for a ghostwise Halfling based on this thread alone.

First... how annoying picking white.

Second, who says that's not already how these apps go? Nobody says they take 3 weeks to get approved for a basic race app. But MD's problem was that he did not want to app at all. He wanted nothing to do with the process, no matter how simple it might have been.

Instead he rage quit after what, 2 days of this thread? Because he didn't want to App?

That tells me there was something far more problematic on his end, whatever that may be. This thread was just a silly way to attempt to make a point without just coming out and saying it.


Edit: And for reference... my last app took 2 days total. My stargazer app before that took roughly the same. Not even that because I usually post apps at night. They are then taken off into the private section by the next morning, and approved by the following night. Even the app I had rejected only took about 2 days to have it rejected. The DM's are on top of these. They really are not hard or time consuming.

[FleetingHeart]

Personally, I think the judgment of the DM’s (or admin) is a bit biased based on how they want a PC to be played.

Also. Yes. Of course it is biased. They don't want good drow running around giving hugs and they don't want a million half dragon warriors and clerics running a muck overpowering everything in sight. They are trying to balance things and keep -certain- subrace rare. Not all. Some they just want to be certain you have a very basic idea of what you're getting into.