Today's conflict

[Letsplayforfun]

Com'on people, it's more fun to die in that kind of event than to die randomly.

And it's a natural choice to perma in those events where your PCs are deeply involved, whereas passerbyes probably should be TR/subdued so that they don't get killed in something they aren't so deeply involved in.

Go Stern!

More: this kinda thread is tearing down what seemed like a grand event to those like me that missed it.

Damn, qui complaining about those DM events, or don't participate in them. How'd you figure these threads are recieved by DMs who thought they were providing fun for those involved?

Even if for some reason a DM can't balance an event properly, who cares? It's something original, tailored for you, that makes the server alive. You'll have plenty of other PCs, and they'll all die anyways.

Last thing: if you're really pissed for some reason talk to the said DM/person  in private, not in public. It's a loose-loose situation if you forum this stuff.

[Drakill Tannan]

Although i was only in half the event-

It truly made no IC sence at all that the legion was allowed to live, less the stygians. It also made no IC sence for Magon to let Fishes live, but i'd rather not kill a PC if i can avoid it, reason being, it'sn not about wining, is about having fun.

It bugs me a little that the charcters than fell to the battle are the ones rewarded with more interaction, than the characters who escaped with their lives, however considering it is usually 1 or 2 who manage to escape, i completly agree with Gippy's choice of letting then live. It adds to the fun, and as a player, i would react not betraying Hoxie to thank him for that.

Asaulting the colony gates is clearly suicidal, but it is awome nevertheless. Now, PCs shoudln't do this often. but they shouldn't be banned for doinig it unless a DM has 12 NPCs on their backs, because if not it's the DMs who move the server, not the players.
All PCs should have faced IC councecuentes, in fact they should all have been permaned.

But let me ask you something, how is that fun?

THe legion should have ended on the attack to Hoxie and the others, but how is that fun at all? I know, if we would have won, the only one dead would be hoxie and farrow (Becaue a DM made a gargothian's chosen specifically command us to, only) And only after giving them chances of escape, like i did when i thought we were winning (why did you think i cut off the chase on farrow?).

That is fun, that PCs are all killed due to overconfidence is not. Even if it is fair.

Sternhound, i wasn't on -your- event, but i support what you did from what i've read here. Kudos to you.

[Porkolt]

I would once more like to express that I agree completely with my own conclusion of this event, that half of the opinions in this topic are misinformed, and that, though a few mistakes were made by Sternhund, he handled the loose ends admirably. I was very happy with the huge amount of freedom I was given to decide on what was to happen to my PC - the only person I could reasonably blame is myself.

[petey512]

I think the main reason Magon let Fishes live is because it's kind of lame to turn a friendly spar into a "Oh and we don't like your friends so we're going to sacrifice you."

[Portal Rat]

I can't believe anyone would complain when someone else gets something nice from a DM for any reason whatsoever.

Oh, wait a minute. Never mind.

Sternhund, you did a good job and don't let anybody tell you differently.

[AceOfSpadesX]

Edit: Oops double post.

[AceOfSpadesX]

I've played on this server 2-3 months now and this is probaby the first I've been involved in such a cool conflict. My perspective: Hoxie is a legend, and a ballsy PC to immolate a Stygian on the bridge. Having never seen Stygian cavalry or  really any mounted NPCs on this server, it was a great exciting/shit-my-pants moment when a load of them flanked us.
Honestly, the event was a blast (pun unintended). It's lame to see bystanders complain that TRs weren't fair, because I'd bet that to a large majority of those involved, it was a shitload of fun, as opposed to if all of those PCs that were killed were perma. If every action like this lead to overwhelming death and perma, there wouldn't be people risking their necks for fun stuff like this.
Props to Hoxie and the DM.

[Dr Dragon]

So Gippy is forced to perma and his cronies/companions are given the option to TR in spite of the fact they were involved just like him....I am going to cry unfair and say Hoxie deserved a TR if all of his other companions who fell to stygians could get them. and I recall awhile ago when Vlad and other rebels/savages assualted the gates and ended up loosing yes some were killed in battle and permad while others lived and had trial. The end result was mostly everyone being  permad and a person exiled while another enslaved. I think it makes total sense to expect harsh consequences when attacking a gate!

[Porkolt]

STFU DrD. Nothing you're saying is a valid argument.

[Capricious]

There was a difference, however. Hoxie died on the bridge surrounded by Stygians, and a couple attempts to get to him failed. Most of the other PCs who died in the attack, such as Farrow, were recoverable due to the Rebels killing the Stygians that stood over the corpses. Maybe I'm missing a Rebel who fell on the bridge, or somewhere else, I'm just saying what I personally saw.

After the initial attack the Rebels rallied and went for their fallen comrades, the only two I saw that I would say they didn't get to were Armando and Hoxie. The rest they could have dragged off. Bailey was standing along the west wall, and I saw near all the fighting from there since that's the way they all ran when the Stygian Cavalry arrived.

Honestly, this whole thing is done and over with, I think it's time to move on and play the game already.

[putrid_plum]

If you say so Porkolt

[Disco]

Waite what?! Stygian on horsies?

[derfo]

calm down holy shit

[Dr Dragon]

STFU DrD. Nothing you're saying is a valid argument.

The Valid argument is simple attack the gates or take PCs hostage dont be suprised that the end result is perma. That has been my argument forever. Considering all other instances were pcs did crazy stuff such as. Attack the gate or attack a powerful Shadow dragon named Etorix have died. I infact remember when Murien and Keel attacked the gates and Murien died and was temporary Permad. Telling me to STFU and that my arguments of PCS doing risky activity getting permad are invalid arguments are great ways to start a flame war. Explain to me how my arguments are invalid I have not told you or others to STFU so lets keep the tone civil. I have pursued risky activities and I have died to them and that makes me glad. In all other instanes were people have attacked the city and the gates often perma has been a consequence for said action its been that way since OLD EFU I just find the sudden change to be odd.


-DRD

[Paha]

I got only one thing to say. Doubt any of you could have handled it in any other way, that wouldn't have caused this exactly same kind talking as it did now. How about you just go with it and next time throw stones when you're absolutely sure you've made the world perfect.

You know if you're one of them.