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I have always found people being raised from PvP deaths in this way kind of tasteless and cheap.

I actually like that an Ascetic cannot just magic away the lethal effects of petrification- in fact I disliked the idea that anyone could when Stone to Flesh was made more common.  It cheapens enemies like the Beholder, I feel, which were previously some of the most dangerous and scary things you could face for this very reason.


Ascetics already do get pretty high saves to mitigate the chance of this, and I think the better solution would be to be more prepared/levelled when you face enemies who can petrify you.

[disappointment for all involved]

"You reap what you sow" - PvP Karma is too amorphous for us to strictly  enforce, but is something we like to encourage. Seeking it will make you  a happier player, avoiding it (even if you don't strictly break any  rules) will just lead to disappointment for all involved (yourself, your  opponent, other players, and the DMs).

- Is the PvP justified?
Has the conflict between your characters reached a point where the  natural progression would be PvP? Are you certain that the desire for  PvP is entirely your character's, and not your feelings as a player  seeping into your RP?

- Is it best to subdual, to subdual-loot, or to FD (full damage) kill?
Has the character (and player) had opportunities to avoid being FD'ed if  they've lost? Is the rivalry or conflict sufficient cause that you  think looting or FD'ing is justified? If the situation was reversed, and  you were playing your character's opponent, would you feel the same  way? Has the story progressed to a point where a FD death would be  appropriate? Please note: often the answer is yes, sometimes in EFU it's  just time for FD time.

- Is the PvP fun and stylish?
Style is intangible, but should always be sought. Put some thought into it.

- Is your attitude as a player relaxed, respectful, sporting?
Are you a gracious winner, and respectful loser? Sportsmanship is  important. Note that this does go both ways, even if you're the victim  of PvP that you think doesn't agree with the PvP Karma Guidelines, you  should still try to be gracious and respectful. Of course, feel free to  come to the Dms if you have concerns.                      

Other good information can be found in this linked thread in the big "Information for New Players" forum.  Read and follow the guidelines, people it makes everyone happier: http://www.efupw.com/forums/showpost.php?p=152&postcount=1

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