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Fighters don't need expertise to be useful in any sense of the idea. A bow or Crossbow using fighter can be ruthless and brutal on a quest or in PvP with all the nice arrow drops, if they spec and focus in Longbow.

My thought was simply Wizards and etc. have custom spells, Bards have books, Barbs get Rage and Damage perks, Rogues get new stuff, Stealthers get Bilby's, Rangers get speed boosts, because that stuff all makes sense for them to have in the setting and adds some seriously cool depth to the class.  Then they could get alchemy and herbalism which is intensely cool, and more.

It just seems like there's very little, either mechanically unique to EFU or setting specific perks that make fighters more appealing for folks to play, and frankly that's kinda unfortunate. Fighter has just as much diversity in concept as any other class but people usually take 4 levels of it as "Combat training" and leave it as is, then take something else. Not blaming anyone for anything, and in fact it makes a lot of sense that it's the way to go. It's cost efficient and gives a lot of RP depth to a character to multiclass sometimes.

Actually it was about fighters, or rogues, or anything really! Just wanted to start a discussion on ideas. The thing with fighters is EFU is so consumable heavy. Potions are swell but it almost seems masochistic to try and play a pure fighter with so many multiclass options available to make a fighter's job so much easier. Wands, scrolls, umd, items, bardsongs, self-buffs the list goes on. The roguestuff was more of a reference point. There's some cool stuff around that rogues can do, that just seem "Roguish" and since it requires levels it seems that being rogue heavy is the way to go. Granted a 6 fighter 1 bard is still "Fighter heavy" it has access to scrolls and wands and things a regular fighter couldn't and that's just kinda weird feeling. Pure fighters should be mean, well trained, disciplined, juggernauts. Something non-mechanical to make up for giving up dispel wands, etc.

[Be assured this is not simply a "Sure I'll join, I have the right deity" situation if a PC is made or you choose this path.]

"You're living at a time of extremism. A time of revolution. A time when there's got to be a change. People in power have misused it and now there has to be a change and a better world has to be built. And the only way it will be built is with extreme methods. And I for one will join in with anyone, don't care what color you are, as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this earth"

- Malxolm X

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That "miserable condition" is the Human Condition for the sake of this concept. Banners may change. Armor colors may change. The humans of Ymph however remains woefully static and dull. Power, wealth, supplies, wandering, political enemies killed by duels, yawn.

I'm looking to shake things up a little bit and would welcome a few PCs if they would like to get in on the ground floor before heavy IC recruitment begins.

Any PC class is welcomed but due to the alteration of dogmatic stances Cleric may not be the best of moves. Naturally though possibilities are endless if your heart is set to play a priest.

Things have kicked off quicker than expected but if you're interested in high intrigue or shady dealings and relatively low to minor but very calculated and subtle combat step right up.

Main PCs are preferred. PCs do not need to be made for this concept if someone is interested in having their existing character's beliefs and morals challenged and pushed to the limits. Naturally steps must be taken before being offered a chance to join the wilder side of the server.

 Be assured this is not simply a "Sure I'll join, I have the right deity" situation if a PC is made or you choose this path.[/i] One must be properly groomed after all, theatrics are half of the fun.

As always, Ha.Ha.Ha.Happy hunting

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Just wanted to say the new stuff for rogues is freaking badass! Non-Mechanical perks are always awesome.

Could something be done maybe to encourage more pure fighters, non-mechanically? Just too rare seen, when you can drop a level or two into another class for a full retinue of wands and such.