I'm having some serious personal problems with current plotline on the server.
I should explain. LiS, doubtless with the best of intentions, left Albrecht Bron to my character Karrin Connell in Samantha White's will. I did not have the opportunity to either think this over or discuss it OOCly with LiS before Samantha died, leaving the whole thing a fait accompli. If I had been a little quicker on the uptake I would have asked LiS OOCly to change Samantha's will at once; ICly Karrin never wanted a slave and in fact strongly dislikes slavery and OOCly I have severe personal issues with slavery that makes it hard for me to deal with it if I am too closely involved with it in any way.
The problem facing me now is this: ICly Karrin now has Albrecht Bron in her legal possession, seeing him not as an asset but as a (to her mind) severely damaged person she is responsible for. He has been a slave all his life and does not even want to be free -- which is realistic enough for slaves conditioned with sufficient brutality. To Karrin's mind, merely passing him on to another owner is unthinkable as it would leave Bron at the whim of further unthinking abuse, possibly for the rest of her life. The task of teaching him to be free is a severely daunting one and if she fails in that she will have to be responsible for him for the rest of his (or possibly her) life. On top of all this, Bron is seeking Izzy's life. To finish it off, people are now yelling at Karrin for being a slaver.
I might be able to handle all of the above... but the sad and sorry truth is that I am not having fun with it. This isn't a game situation to me, it is a nightmare scenario, and I feel less and less inclined to log on with Karrin at all. In short, I feel painted into a corner RP-wise. And I don't know what to do about it, so I am explaining matters here and hope people will forgive me for defaulting on what is technically an RP issue.
I hate asking the involved parties for either a retcon or some OOC deus ex machina, but it is either that or retire Karrin from play. I see no satisfactory IC resolution to this at all nor even the hope of one. Sorry.
~tOH.
whats stoppping you from freeing him, silly sounds all ic to me
ToH,
Sorry if I added to this for you. Don't worry to much about it. Izzy will be fine, or dead, I'm alright with either option.
I fully understand that there are times that IC things get to us OOC'ly, the best thing to do is find a way IC'ly to deal with it, otherwise it is never resolved.
Karrin could petition the Lords to set Bron free. She could find someone that she thinks might help him and ask them to see to his well being. She could just ignore the fact that she 'owns' him and go about her business.
Karrin is a well developed character and I would hate for you to just give up on her because of an IC situation.
Quote from: putrid_plum;224432whats stoppping you from freeing him, silly sounds all ic to me
A lord is required to free a slave.
its rp, things never go the way you like, stop getting ooc stressed out over it
I got to say as well, this is fully IC matter. I do not see the problem. You can deal with in character. It's not all meant to be rosy and dandy in the life of a concept, and this just happens to be one type of a challenge.
Well, normally I would agree this is a strictly IC issue, but Slavery is one of those prickly "Happens in RL" things that some people might take particular offense to, such as torture or rape. From that angle I can see how that would make someone uncomfortable.
That being said, if the DM's do provide a solution, it might not be one you particularly like. I say, just hang in there dear, I went through the same thing with Aeliolia (aquired a slave, couldn't free him). If it's any consolation, Bron is so pro dominion and proactive, you could address this ICly and write to the Duke, requesting he be freed for his loyalty and countinued labors.
At which point you lose the ability to influence his actions and protect others from him entirly, but free yourself of personal guilt
[Takes off the leash]
Now you. You get out of here hear? I can't keep you anymore so go.
[Little boy tears]
Anyway. It's an IC issue. Think you should be happy that someone was willing to play a slave PC and not quit it after 2 hours.
I assume that you have asked for help IG already and this is why you are asking here OOC?
Perhaps you haven't asked enough people or have asked the wrong questions. Keep trying.
For me, having known people who have died due to drug OD or otherwise screwing up their lives, hearing people talk of drugs in the Docks suck, and so far I have been able to ignore that crap for the most part.
BUT slavery is a big part of EFUA, as well as EFU. It is harder to ignore and I think that it is important part of the server as something that many PC's would be against.
I would suggest that you find the answers IG now that others are aware of your concerns as you know people like to help each other out.
I've gotten offers of help ingame and it looks like it will be solved. Thanks to all who contributed constructively.
It's just a slave. Kill it if it's hindering you, or sell it to someone else.
in a world of blood explosions and eating hearts, non violent slavery and profanity is the bane of existence
It seems like you're making an issue out of nothing, here. If your character is in a bad situation, RP it out. That is part of the fun of the game; seeing things not go well in spite of your best efforts. Sometimes you are just backed into a corner IC - I don't see the OOC negativity in this, if you feel this way I'd suggest you take some time to examine how you view the boundries between IC and OOC.
There is sometimes never a 'satisfactory IC solution' to issues that leaves your character exactly where you want them to be - EfU is not some fanfiction where everything can be tied up neatly in a bow, it is a mature server where sometimes things just go to shit. This process should be entertaining.
On another note, I'd also question people who are crying about slavery in a setting where to most people it would be second nature, or at least accepted as part of the status quo.
Yeah. You really could be embracing this situation and seeing what can be done with it.
Sounds like a sweet RP goldmine dropped in your lap!
You could always petition to a Lord for the slave to be transferred to the legal person of the Dominion. Seems like a cool solution for all sides to me since Bron would remain a slave, yet in the spirit of the Dominion which I'd assume your character can trust.
Quote from: The Old Hack;224431The task of teaching him to be free is a severely daunting one and if she fails in that she will have to be responsible for him for the rest of his (or possibly her) life.
This sounds quite awesome, actually. You shoud do it.
Quote from: DangerousDan;224501On another note, I'd also question people who are crying about slavery in a setting where to most people it would be second nature, or at least accepted as part of the status quo.
Since I'm not the most up to date on FR lore, I think what would be really useful for improving RP would be a list of nations in the setting where slavery is considered normal, ones where it's tolerated, and ones where it's seen as barbaric. It might be accepted by Old Port citizens, but not by portal victims from places where it's criminal.
@ The Old Hack.
One of my PCs once ended up with a slave he didn't really want, but bought as a favour to a friend, with the aim of conspiring to have her freed. It was a great plot, I'd got this PC working for me and trying to take down another character who was both a wanted man and a personal enemy to my own guy. That was so I could provide a list of reasons why she'd be better freed to be my bodyguard. I was also plotting ways to influence the character to be more independent, and trying to subtly explain to my mostly good/chaotic/wilderness allies why the hell I had a slave, without blowing up my conspiracy.
I think Dan might have meant that in an OOC sense.
I'd hate to see you play your PC less because you do a great job with her.
A possible solution would have been for your PC to give the slave to a good aligned cleric or paladin with the understanding that they would free them at sometime.
Keep on rocking!
Lighten up!!!!!!
It's ok, knowing thomas he will be dead before march. Nothing to worry about.
Or bored. >_>
I find this offensive. I am a genuinely amazing player and I dfon't intend to die anytime soon!
As for you douche bags who doubt my amazing talent, I have nothing good to say of you for doubting me in such a cold and brazen manner!
Lock this topic!
It's okay, Spiffy. Sometimes characters die quickly, and sometimes those characters tend to have belonged to certain players. Like you and me (or RWG). :P